hey i need some help.

im a great opener but i get too attached to the situation and the girl and end up fucking it up.

for instance, tonight i was hanging out with these 2 chicks and i ended up pushing away the deal because i was way too needy. its like when im in the situation i forget rules like cat and string, 2 step back theory.

i need help!

The first thing you need to do is seperate your concuslions from the facts. You said "for instance" and then proceeded to tell me about your conculsion. When you say for instance you need to explain what happened to lead you to believe you turned too needy. Your perception of the situation is of no concern to me right now. I need to know the facts first. Then you tell me how you feel about it.

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Walk Hard

Sorry, here is what happened:

Me, my buddy and his friend i just met were hanging out with these 2 HB8s at his house. Naturally I started playing alpha and tried showing them how to play pool on my buddies’ own pool table in the basement.

Between that I was negging and DHV both of them on and off most of the time and having drinks of Malibu.



After 30-40 minutes, when the drinks started to kick in, I noticed that my body language was that I was moving around too much and not staying in one place.
( I was pouring drinks for people and talking joyfuly)

I sat on the bar stool in his basement and started talking to the girl that sat beside me. I can't remember what I said but I do remember negging her abit then she left to play more pool..I couldn't tell if she was trying to make me jealous and test me with the other guys or if I was coming off awkward and doing everything wrong.

My theory is that my body language and overly long eye contact came off a bit needy after a few drinks... killing the deal with these HB8s. With me being showing so much of myself to them, my friends came off as more mysterious and ended up naturally number closing them. My one friend even ended up with a drunkin K close.


What doesn't make sense to me is how I ended up pushing the deal to my friends...after using most of my techniques how did they get the close?

I understand my body language (eye contact was odd, bouncing around) may be off but was that the main reason? Should I not drink/drink little, when I’m working on girls?

You were trying to hard. Should have acted unavailable, UNATTAINABLE , meaning these girls would have no shot with you. The idea of moving around the party and speaking with other people is not a bad idea, this shows that you are not just speaking with these two other girls, but have other options.
However, next time try to have people gravitate around YOU rather than you around them.
If you were getting some serious eye contacts with this woman, you should have came straight up to her and say something along the lines of:"You need to stop doing that, i'm not that type of guy" then just walk away.
This comes off as cocky, mysterious but also marks a point that hey, if she wants you, shes going to have to try way harder.

I used to have the same problem but now what I usually do when around a beautiful woman is tell myself that I am the PRIZE and that she NEEDS me. I don't need anyone or anything because I can get everything I want when I want.
Tell yourself that she isn't even that hot, or try finding things you dislike about her. But watch out, don't get turned down!

Even if this is not particularly true, it helps you boost your confidence and puts you in a situation where you feel desired. Thus relaxing yourself, feeling better around woman.
The women will not only feel that you are in charge but it will attract them!

Another thing that I practice is ataraxia. If you've seen the movie Slevin you should understand what I mean.
Josh Harnett has a "disease" in which nothing affects him emotionally. He gets mug, reacts calmly, the guy NEVER gets tense. Women LOVE men that are always in CONTROL and that are not affected about what is going on.
This is similar to Hank Moody in Californication, he can be in a horrible situation, just got his car stollen or whatever and he'll be like "ah crap whatever".

I've practiced using this technique and its always been positive for me.

Hope this helps

Haha! Hank Moody is an absolute HERO & LEGEND!!!!