Opening female(s) w/ male in set ... I still don't understand this aspect. Does it matter that he's in there? It almost seems counter-intuitive to approach this set versus an all female one. Doesn't the male present an obstacle to gaming the girls?

Also, what would be a good ratio of females to males in the set. 4f:1m, 3f:1m, 2f:1m

Obviously I guess if the ratio is equal 1f:1m, 4f:4m, or there are more guys than girls you probably don't want to open that set.

Hell no man..... it's better with a male. You already know never to go for the target first. But even a female that isn't the target might be suspicious. If you open a set with a male, you go for him, you win him, and use your interaction with him to make the whole group comfortable with you. You can tell before you ever open whether or not he's the AMOG. If he isn't, then it's all the more easy. If he is, then there are disarming techniques as well. But no worries because most men are not AMOGs, that's sorta what makes them AMOGs.

I always hope there's a guy in the set.... it's ten times easier to win over the group.

Make sure to mention an ex-girlfriend in the first 5 minutes so they know you're not gay.

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Yeah it doesn't matter.
You can tell if he's an AMOG from the sets BL from a distance. And when you talk to the set and him you can tell if he's a natural. Just throw down a FTC, and once you've got the hook point who can validate the set with "So how do you all know each other". That'll see if any of them are bf/gf. If they are and you don't want to pursue, fluff then use your FTC to exit.

Or just use them as your safety set or social proof. You don't have to think of everyone in the club as competetion.

New here guys,wanted to know what a AMOG is?

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Just another thought:

There's very little difference between guys and ugly girls, in terms of how you deal with them in a set.

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