I went out last night for a friends leaving party. It was a great opportunity to sarge but I felt my game was not as strong as it could be. I'm still learning. My major sticking point: closing.

The night started quite well as I snuck into the club without paying. I did not warm up before the night out so I had to go into a club and warm up there. Did a couple of random warm up sets and just ended on a high 5, not really liking either girl. Went into an 11 set Hen night and just fluffed a little then High fived the bride to be and left. They were quite prominent (fancy dress and fairy wings paraphernalia) in the club and I had a situational opener now for other sets: Are you part of the hen night?

I managed to leave set almost every time with high 5’s from the entire set.

Then I saw a decent two set: HB7 and HB 6 – opened with

“I was going to wear that out tonight”, (which worked charmingly on many sets)

Then I commented about the weird hand shaped lights. They found it funny. Then they stuck out their elbow and we 'clinked elbows', I asked about that and it was from a previous night where they try to high 5 a guy with half of his arm amputated and they did not realise. They “high elbowed” him and it stuck. That was my ‘in point’ for that two set for the rest of the night. I fluffed a little and did a bit of dancing with them and twirled them both. We were just dancing and I got bored and it was too loud to talk. They said they were going to smoke and asked if I wanted to come. I said I didn’t smoke and wanted to get back to my wing to see how he was doing so I declined. I realized that was a mistake, one that happened a couple more times with that set. It would have been a perfect time to use routines and I just didn’t think.

I saw them a few times, however I was always approaching them. Despite proximity alert from them. I was even dancing with another girl (which turned out to have a BF) and they came really close. Towards the end of the night when things weren’t as ‘happening’ as before I really tried it on with the 6 but I was getting nowhere. As I was leaving I went to say goodbye and number close, which I did and the 6 said.

“It was really cool hanging out with you, I’m not from here but next time I’m in town we should make a night of it. YOU’RE ONE OF THE NICE ONES” that destroyed me. That was the only number close.

On reflection I behaved a like an AFC and followed them about too much.
I gamed a few others but did not work the sets enough and friends distracted my targets.


I got shit loads of BF shit test. What can I do? Am I naive in thinking that they actually do? When they say their BF is at the club I leave set immediately.

In conclusion I opened many sets, tried a few routines but it was loud and I did not close apart form one no. close.
The music helped which was so good, I did have a good time. Danced around and I could tell that my energy was attracting attention.
I think I'm behaving too much like a friendly guy and I am not attracting girls in the right way. I need to go for no. closes straight away rather than trying to build rapport. In and out - no messing about.

There is not failure - Only feed back!

I am also in the trouble of closing.

I did not even got a no.close today, which really sucked.

When they say their BF is at the club I leave set immediately.
- Why? If it's a respect thing, not wanting to steal them away from another guy, that's fine and I can dig that. But if you're backing because you think you a BF means you have no chance, there's no need. You can find some great NLP boyfriend buster routines if that's your style, but really you should be fine running your normal gain.
- Fun fact: When you meet a girl with a BF, you have a better chance of laying her that night then you have of getting a returned phonecall.


As far as your other set, I'm not clear enough on specifics to say if you were too needy, but I wouldn't worry as much as you are about the "Nice guy" routine. She gave you her number, and she said you should make a night of it. Those aren't turn you down words, if she wasn't interested there would've been no need. Take the "nice guy" thing as a compliment. The most likely explanation from an outside standpoint is that she was qualifying her attraction to you, which is a good thing.

As for approaching them to much... Yeah I can see that hurting. I wouldn't advise jumping in and out too much. Leaving to let them miss you for a while is fine, but too many returns and they're confident you'll keep coming back. If you feel the need to leave the set but still want to finish with them, maybe giving them a reason to come find you would work? I haven't tried this, but seems worth exploring.

Example: I actually like your move turning down the smoke, though I'm not sure you did it for the right reason. Letting them leave without you because you have more important things to do sends a good message. Maybe you could've done a "sorry, I have to get back to my friends, but maybe if you come find me later I'll be willing to give you another dance." You're wanted elsewhere so you get some social proof, and you're now framing the next meeting as them wanting something from you instead of the other way around.