MY TWO FRIENDS ARE ALPHA AND I'M... NOT!!! HELP!!



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2010 4:32 am 
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Guys. Thanks a lot for the advice. I do agree that being with these guys is an opportunity to learn, and peacocking is definitely first on my lift. I have a hat, and a cool cane. I mean if I limp I may as well work with it right. BUT It's seriously a david and goliath situation here. I mean I respect the fact that my game needs improvement... A LOT of it. That's why I'm here. But a lot of the time I can't even get a word in to even work on my game.

Or I'll be talking to an HB, things are going great and then Mr. Mens Health comes along and just PULLS her away and talks to her. Once that's happened I'm done.

I mean what should I do... go right back over and pull her back.

Thanks for the advice so far guys. Much appreciated

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Get new friends/join another band. End of.

Why? Because they obviously don't have any respect for you if they keep doing that bullshit.


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Hey guys.

Thanks again for all the advice. We're going out tomorrow night so I'll let all of you know how it goes. I will definitely try and shift my focus on working on my game. I also like the idea of using the crippled thing as an advantage, and I'll try the lead singer thing to DHV. After all it's called The Chris Hendricks Band and I am Chris H. I'll let you guys know exactly what happens tomorrow. I'm sure all the advice will pay off.

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Bring a Peacock with you. The peacock does not have to be clothing stuff. Try an MP3 player. Put one of the ear plugs in one ear whike the other ear plugs hangs loose. When your friends bude into your conversation do this. Say to the target "Oh Smooth, This is my favorite Jam" Offer her the other piece and ask her what she thinks of the song. When she listens the shortness of the cord will be you together and the music will take her attention off your friends. Put your arm arround her if she gets close.
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OK so I'm in a band. I'm the lead singer and when I go out my guitarist and manager always come with me. For the sake of my sanity in this situation just assume that going out without them is not an option.

Anyway, My guitarist was 6th place mr. universe and my manager is a Men's Health model. I'm a kid with limp.....

I can't amog them because they are my friends. More than that they are brothers BUT they are terrible wingmen and whenever we go out the girls always go for them.......

Damn it. I just want to meet a chick and treat her well. I'm not trying to give a sob story here but I'm desperate. I can't compete with these guys. I don't know what to do. Even if I approach them and bring them to the table, my guitarist and manager always monopolize the conversation. I can't get a word in.

When i talked to them about it they said there is no such thing as dibs on a chick. They will hit on whoever they feel like.

I understand that. It's an alpha world the leaders always win. But cripple vs. Mr. Universe. Give me a break.

I'm so f'ing frustrated. Please help me!!!!


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Bring a Peacock with you. The peacock does not have to be clothing stuff. Try an MP3 player. Put one of the ear plugs in one ear whike the other ear plugs hangs loose. When your friends bude into your conversation do this. Say to the target "Oh Smooth, This is my favorite Jam" Offer her the other piece and ask her what she thinks of the song. When she listens the shortness of the cord will be you together and the music will take her attention off your friends. Put your arm arround her if she gets close.
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OK so I'm in a band. I'm the lead singer and when I go out my guitarist and manager always come with me. For the sake of my sanity in this situation just assume that going out without them is not an option.

Anyway, My guitarist was 6th place mr. universe and my manager is a Men's Health model. I'm a kid with limp.....

I can't amog them because they are my friends. More than that they are brothers BUT they are terrible wingmen and whenever we go out the girls always go for them.......

Damn it. I just want to meet a chick and treat her well. I'm not trying to give a sob story here but I'm desperate. I can't compete with these guys. I don't know what to do. Even if I approach them and bring them to the table, my guitarist and manager always monopolize the conversation. I can't get a word in.

When i talked to them about it they said there is no such thing as dibs on a chick. They will hit on whoever they feel like.

I understand that. It's an alpha world the leaders always win. But cripple vs. Mr. Universe. Give me a break.

I'm so f'ing frustrated. Please help me!!!!
Damn this advice is good. XD I like it A LOT. Oh and it works half the time unless your MP3 runs dead on battery. Happened once, was a good laugh for my evening.


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PostPosted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:12 pm 
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Your "friends" sound more like AMOGs to me.

Inform them of how you feel about this and ask them to help you out. Everybody loves to help a guy get laid.

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I've been in your situation and I know how you feel. It makes your gut kind of turn in your stomach to see these guys getting the pussy and you not.

At the same time, you cannot stop nature from running its course, but you CAN divert the flow, if you know what I mean.

First of all, you have to stop believing in your head that these guys are ALL that. If they are you friends then be supportive as they should be to you as well. Watch them and learn from them. Take the awesome parts of their game and then mix it with your own unique twist to bring it to a higher level of awesomeness.

The great thing about this situation is that because these guys are such high level wingman they are going to force you to bring your game to such a high level compared to if you had only average wingmen. You are really lucky in that sense.

There is also a phenomenon in psychology that says that we get judged in relation to the people we hang out with. Simply put: If you are average looking, but hanging out with two ugly guys, others will automatically see you as less attractive. If you are average, but hanging out with two very attractive guys, others will automatically see you as being more attractive.


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How bout if your mates bring or steal a girl from you, quickly bring her back by a DHV...

You can DHV about the guy trying to steal it and NEG him and add humour to make her laugh, put him down and make him feel like an idiot while laughing and her in a sly way...

Dont make it obvious your putting him down, just pretend its a funny story that puts him down.

It's an option right? maybe get someone elses opinion too


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You do know what a DHV and a NEG is right?

First off these guys are supposed to be your friends. Plus you could learn from them. Nobody will give you premission to be cool, it is all in your head. You have to give yourself permission. There is no difference between you and them apart from physical appearance, and thats not very important...

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LOL You don't DHV and Neg your friends WTF, this is why people think PUA messes people up.

At any rate this is my advice, this ended up a bit longer than I intended but:

-Read all the PUA material you can get your hands on
-Read some books/essays on body language
-Learn to project your voice and make it your natural voice:

http://www.afctopua.com/articles/vocal- ... -powerful/

-Study your friends
-Work on your frame

Realize that if I was watching you play, and had never met you before, even as a man I would assume going up to your table to say hello to tell you I liked your set, my assumption would be I was stepping into your world and reality since you're the lead singer. Most women will probably be thinking the same way. Obviously a band is a group effort, but this is the image people have. So you already have that going for you, you can open sets, introduce girls to your friends, and be the leader without even really trying.

For now work on being part of the conversation, when there is a lull tell a story or whatever is natural, be the leader of the conversation. Furthermore when you find a girl you like address her directly, ignore the group, and extract her to the bar for a shot or something. This will be a clear indicator to your friends that you want this particular girl, if they are jerks they will try to cock block and AMOG you, if they are your friends they will think "Good for him". If they are as good looking and alpha as you say, they have plenty of girls. Everyone has to start somewhere.

You also need to work on your self esteem, having a limp is not a huge deal, and while it might deprive you of a certain grace, it doesn't deprive you from having style, being funny, witty, intelligent or sexual.

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