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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:01 pm 
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Scenario: I met a beautiful girl saturday night. I would call her a 10. We had some good two-way conversation, and ended up exchanging numbers, agreeing to get together "sometime" for lunch. We texted each other shortly after that. The last text I sent said, "Lol did you ever get your french fries?" (she kept talking about how she wanted to get french fries). She didn't respond, which is probably because she was sleeping when it came in, and when she got it, it was just not top priority. The situation is not quite favorable anymore, but I believe it's still salvageable. What should my next text be?

Positives: The vibe in person was great. I didn't communicate neediness, and I was able to break down a huge "bitch shield" (she's an aspiring performer, so she thinks she's pretty hot shit). When I first texted her, she texted right back. On top of that, I know her friend, and her friend approves of me. She likes/liked a lot of things about me which are true (not part of any game), and I'm confident that in person, I could take it to the next level.

Negatives: I didn't build enough comfort to make the 2nd date a no-brainer. I had to ask for the number. The last time I texted her, I got no response. She's used to getting a lot of attention, so the next thing I say needs to be very competitive with that. The most negative thing of all is perhaps the fact that I don't want to fuck it up with this girl (because you know how that goes).

WHAT I NEED: A follow-up text TODAY, that will guarantee a positive response. If I can get a little conversational traction, I should be fine. Any ideas to follow up a non-response text I sent on saturday night (a day and a half ago)?

Much appreciated. :D

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2010 2:34 pm 
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its a hard one because you dont want to fuck it up theres always a chance it will fuck up and then again you didnt build enough comfort and the girl is flakey which makes this reply even more difficult because no matter what you text she might not reply

i remember one time me and this one chick hit it off great where kissing all night built lots of comfort and exchanged numbers when i text her got no response at all tried again a few times but nothing didnt understand it much because my game was tight with this chick so theres no guarntee any of these texts will work you just got to look at it like pratice and move on to the next girl dont obsese with anyone 1 chick

try something like

" you never call or write the rents due in 4 days and the kids are missing there mummy "

or i use this one alot when i havent heard from someone in awhile

" you alive ? "

some others

"I've been arrested for bein the ugliest person in Britain, can u cum down the police
station and show them it's a mistake? "

"i want u 2 know that our friendship means alot 2 me.U cry i cry.U laugh i laugh .U
jump out of da window... I look down & den... i laugh again "

"Those innocent eyes... Those kissable lips... A great smile... The perfect walk...
Smoothest talk... Absolutely gorgeous.. Thats enough bout me-How r u? "


what id do is read braddock and mr m ultimate phone and text game ebook its a great read and full of great advice or just google fun text msgs theres plenty on there but the book i would advise


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Thanks for the advice MrMonk!
I read a few blurbs about it. I've made up my mind to text "BAD BOY KILLA!" to her (that's a setup for a joke based on inside knowledge). Why? It's different. I think she's more likely to respond to that rather than "how are you?" or "guess you didn't get fries after all." No matter what she says back, I can say that I was "Channeling the ghost of Tupac." If those interactions go well, and I can get a little traction, that's all I need. Sound risky? Maybe it is. Here goes :P

I'll let you know how it turns out!

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Yeah if a girl doesn't respond, you need to up the "interesting-ness" of the message. Yeah if you have an inside joke, or something cryptic that you think will go well, go for it. If it's too wierd or she won't get it, she won't respond though, so you have to choose something fairly confident about it at least.

Also, you need to start making them qualify themselves. How to do this without seeming like an arse is an art - basically let them think that you think you are totally justified in whatever opinion you're starting to form of them, but give them a way out... I can explain more when I'm not busy...


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Thanks Conker. Hey, how do I get this girl to qualify herself? That's something I did well the other night, but now she's calling my bluff. I might not be as egotistical as this girl. I mean, she's the kind of girl that will get attention everywhere she goes, and I still have to work for mine.

Anyway, my text worked for the time being. We had a silly little convo, and then I left it. I can start it up tomorrow. Things could still go to shit at any time. I need to get her to hang out this week, preferably after work. Any more suggestions about to get from text to hangout?

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ask her to do something you were already doing with your friends anyways and invite her friends to this ways if she declines / flakes you dont really lose any value as you where already set to do that activity anyway

try something like

" me and the boys are hitting "X" club / bar this weekend you and your friends can meet us out if you want "

or " paintball with the boys this weekend bring your gals and get splatted if you dare "

anything your doing will work and even if she flakes you and your friends are still out having a good time anyway

could even try a fake group text invite see if she responds but in my experience it round about 35 % chance she respond to it


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Grow a goddamn penis and CALL her you homo....just kidding, but serious about the calling lol.

typical phone conversation.

You: Hello
her: Hi
You: Whats ups
her: blah blah blah
You: Cool, this thursday were going to grab dinner.
Her: Cool
You: Peace bitch.
Her: I love you.


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Disclaimer: I'm tired but can't sleep, so everything I wrote below is part "essential concepts" mixed in with "examples of what I'm talking about, kind of rambling", so hope you can get something out of it :) Editing it down to make more sense would require the kind of brain power I can't muster right now, heheh...




Qualifying is what you start doing to punish. Everything is a sliding scale. If they are only misbehaving a little bit, it can be a little joke at there expense, but still funny. If they are being very evasive or even a bit rude, then the qualifying could be as extreme as, in a light hearted way, putting some aspect of their personality into question.

Just recently - a girl approached me, we were having fun, but I played it too cool and went for a facebook instead of phone number and left quickly. I see this as a fail, I messed up the initial interaction, game over. She was cold on facebook. But, even though I fucked this up in the beginning, I still managed to get her talking on facebook, which she kept insisting is not her thing. Eventually I called off the conversation because it wasn't going anywhere but the way I actually got her talking even though she was trying tto avoid me was by putting her personality into question - in a light hearted way.

She never replied to my first two messages (and they were good ones) so I called her out on the behaviour, wondering if this was the same girl. She insisted facebook was not her thing, and she's just been lazy and doesn't get on facebook much at the moment. I told her she doesn't have to make stories to get me to stop emailing her like "those other guys", just tell me to stop and I'll stop. Then I asked her if the crazy girl i thought I met was all an act to collect facebook friends - if so, she doesn't get to keep me as one :) I added "This is important." She sent 3 paragraphs explaining herself. I replied again, she sent back another 3 paragraphs explaining herself, this happened 3 or 4 times. Sure this didn't end up going anywhere but for someone who saw fit to flat out ignore 2 very positive and funny emails, I think this is pretty good results for such a weak connection (i.e. text, as opposed to voice or face to face) - no way would I have been able to make something happen at this point, before I knew how to qualify. Especially over text. Eventually I put a few funny things in for her to go off, to make the conversation interesting, but she wasn't taking the bait and she was making the conversation boring, the attraction wasn't there anymore of course - so I decided it was a dead end, and called it off - said I'm giving up trying to get to know her on Facebook, and told her about a dress up thing I was going to, and she can meet me there, threw in a little in-joke, and left it at that. I kinda might have been a bit too blunt at the end, although she seemed like she was trying to put in as little effort as possible towards the end - while at the same time I had an email convo going with another girl who was reciprocating very well to all the fun suggestions I put into my conversation, and we're actually meeting up on the weekend, so I couldn't have been bothered putting all the effort in when there's a girl willing to meet me who seems to know how to actually have fun. So - this wasn't the BEST example but it's the most recent one.


No one likes to think that their value is dropping in anyone's eyes, even your worst enemy you want them to think you're awesome and be jealous of you. So start to question something about a girl and she'll come to her own defence very quickly. Once you've got her talking, and you're challenging her, you can rescue a situation and make things interesting. If you can challenge a woman's mind, she feels like you're smart and can handle things and she feels safe.

It's all a sliding scale - right at the other end of this scale, she's calling you and asking to catch up cause she needs company, etc. and you should respond with generosity and fun. At the other end of the scale, she's getting pretty disrespectful, so you're qualifying her hard, for fun, and waiting for her response. And somewhere in between you have little jokes at her expense when she's getting a bit testy.

Basically it's all about feeling what she needs at the moment - reward or punishments, and what level. And that's the art - you can only just keep trying this and learning from experience, there are many variables such as your personality, her personality, the moment you're both in, things that have happened, things that may yet happen, etc. so like a lot of other things, it's not so much logical thought as it is experience and feeling your way through.

Never act out of anger. A neg done out of anger will really make the situation shit. Always be strong in your goals and comfortable with yourself no matter what the outcome is - that stability and lack of concern about the outcome, is one of your selling points. I know what I want, I'm going to shoot for it. When I was qualifying that girl in the email - I knew in my head that I'd won and lost heaps of girls, and none of them were won by fawning over someone who wasn't doing anything to deserve it, so get to the point as much as possible, have no fear in being direct about what I'm after, and be realistic about it - all the while I kept asking her things trying to find out if she really was this crazy girl i thought I met, or was it all an act - if the latter, I was going to lose interest very quickly.

Okay that was a huge ramble, I'm just going to post this and then start a new post to answer your initial situation more directly, because after reading it again I think I see it in a different way.


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The most negative thing of all is perhaps the fact that I don't want to fuck it up with this girl (because you know how that goes).
I know where that mindset goes - downhill, real fast. And this next bit of advice is no good for this immediate situation, its experience you have to gain over time; The best thing for this is to hit on a lot of girls who you think are below your status. You have no invested interest in the outcome, so you come off as playful and cool, calm, very strong, something girls are attracted to. And you should train yourself to continue building that attraction. Sure you could play it REAL cool, do nothing, let the attraction fizzle out, nothing happens. But can you make this fun, get her excited about seeing you - if she's below your standards, shouldn't this be easy? You will find things to like about her, enjoy the positive interaction you've generated between the two of you, and you will be more excited to talk to her than you were in the beginning. Don't judge yourself on what happens, look at it as piano lessons - you're just doing things over and over for experience. No matter what happens, you always get a bit better each time, so there's always progress to look forward to.

Then you need to realise - all girls are the same, as far as this goes. They all want a fun positive strong guy, who generates fun between the two of you, and is very cool and casual about what happens, but still knows what he likes and is not afraid to get more of it.

The exciting thing is, if you can get yourself into this mindset for a very hot girl, it's basically like FREE MONEY. She barely ever gets treated this way, because guys are always fawning over her! The effect of treating a hot girl this way, is multiplied, so it's actually easier to attract a hot girl :) Its actually possible to do this without all the experience, by psyching yourself up, knowing that this approach is the only one that will work. After that, keeping your shit together in the long term comes with experience. You'll have successes and failures but the experience will cause you to have more successes than failures.
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Negatives: I didn't build enough comfort to make the 2nd date a no-brainer.
Don't kick yourself for this, but accept that this is where you are at and you're going to make the most of it. Accept that your chances are significantly worsened. The mindset is that you are going to make the most of it anyway. In the right mindset, you accept this is the situation and then... you are not afraid of the outcome.
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I had to ask for the number.
Never ask. Always tell. Change "What's your number?" to "Give me your number and I'll let you know what I'm up to." - thing is, it's actually easier to make the latter one more fun and friendly :)
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The last time I texted her, I got no response. She's used to getting a lot of attention, so the next thing I say needs to be very competitive with that.
It's true that you have to acknowledge this, not sure what you meant by the last few words - but you have to behave in a way that shows her - all her expectations on how she should be treated, and the way all the other guys treat her, doesn't concern you. You're going after what you want, in your way.


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