Hi all soon-to-be masters of pick up! I'm brand new to this forum and being an adult. I read "The Game" 6 months ago and have been using some of the Mystery Method's techniques since then.

Last night (a week after turning eighteen) I hit what is said to be DC's hottest club. Right when I entered the bumping party and took a good look at all the made-up beautiful women I knew it was on.
I was a little apprehensive in my first encounter of an all-adult dance floor, but with the help of the tree second rule I made countless approaches throughout the night.

-I usually opened with my own DHV/kino routine on girls who weren't dancing. "You guys look like you're not having enough fun! Where are the smiles?" Then I would look for the first one to smile and touch my hand to their cheek and say "There it is!" then I would lean into her and ask her another opener question like "Who do you think lies more guys or girls?" from there I tried to directly ask for a dance, which didn't work. I realized I needed to fluff more.
-The thing that made me not want to spend time fluffing was the fact that there were so many girls to approach. I was over anxious for the first hour.

*Discovery: Once I realized I wasn't getting anywhere with 2 minute approaches I started to make myself comfortable with hanging around a group and talking. I thought the fast paced club SPAM this would deter girls but it seemed to be just the opposite. The dance club gives a very non-personal feel. Because of the loud music you can't talk while making eye contact. This makes some girls feel out of their element. Not to mention the countless number of creepy guys who just suddenly grind up behind them. So if you can go up and talk to them comfortably they respond well.
- Most girls I talked to for a while would give an excuse not to dance like "I’m waiting for my friends" or "my feet hurt" so if this happened or even if I just wanted to move to another set I would give them the "New York handshake" and tell them to give it to me when they saw me later so i know it's them "There's a lot of beautiful girls in this club and it can be hard to tell them apart so give this to me and we'll dance later." In the crowded club only one girl found me again and gave it to me, but dancing with her was pretty great.

******Kiss close******
An hour before the club closed I spotted a girl looking at me. I had opened her friend earlier in the night, but quickly left in my excitement. I immediately called the staring girl out and said "what are you looking at?" she said "you were talking to my friend earlier and just left" (Haha the give and take away works!) I then said "So what do you want from me?" she said, "dance?" so we did. After a few songs i asked her if she wanted to go sit somewhere. she said she had to ask her friends so i teased her "oh you have to ask your babysitters, i understand" we all went to the less noisy lounge section where I isolated. I did an ESP palm reading and "The Cube" (my personal favorite) then I asked if she wanted to kiss me. She said "uuuh" I said "let's find out" and we made out. I got her number and we are probably doing something later.

**Questions**
-Everywhere in the club had very loud music such that you would have to do ear pressed to mouth talking. Anyone have any methods that are good in this loud SPAM?
-Mystery never really talked about dancing. What are some good ways to get the women to dance? How can I utilize dancing in my ultimate goal of number/lay closing? Where does it fit into a routine?
-Any other feedback is greatly appreciated.

I could not have imagined a better first night in a club. I learned a lot and am more excited than ever to master the art of pickup. I have already made plans to hit another club very soon.

She was an 8 btw

i know what you mean about it being too loud to talk , this is a problem im having as well. My friend who is a natural alpha male over comes this by doing the "you me game" he points at the girl and points at himself a few times with a big grin on his face and mouths the words "you and me" . simple enough he says roughly 6 out of 10 will just say no but the other 4 will come and dance with you. and the beauty of it is if she rejects you but you see her again later in a quiter place it makes her easier to open and you can act offended . not really pua but its the only thing that i know that works in that situation. if you find another technique keep me informed

I think Mystery wrote somewhere "stay away from the dance floor it's a trap" Personally I think it's a good place to open a girl without words and/or demonstrate social proof.

Use the dance floor to isolate a girl, take her by the hand and lead her in. Then lead her out.

There is usually an area in the club where you can lead her where the music isn't so intense. If not go outside to get some fresh air.

I generally don't go to clubs to pickup because it is fucken hard to communicate, there's too many pilled out douche bags and messy service. The girls are young and bangin tough so it's a tough call some nights.

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Hi

Im also new, say about a month, One of the most exciting things about the game for me is amount of stuff I have learned about social observation. You cant really get this from books, it comes from being in the field.

I think its the number one most important tool in terms of analysing your game and maximising your potential, (OK I sound like David Brent / Michael Scott here) but still...

One of the things I have learned is girls and guys dance for different reasons. Guys dance to pull girls. Girls dance to have fun. I agree with Mystery in that the dance floor is a no go area, for the following reasons:

-For most guys its hard to dance and not look like a twerp - it comes naturally to girls

-Its next to impossible to DHV on the dancefloor. OK, so some professional dancers may disagree but on he whole you may as well be wearing an invisibility suit.

-If there is a hot girl on the dance floor, she usually has like 5 AFCs dancing round her looking at her. Whether she loves it or not, you dont wanna be one of those losers because: A. she will notice it but more importantly, B. other HBs in the club will notice it

-If you do get a chance to talk to her, its very hard to talk and dance. But because shes a girl shes having fun dancing, she wants to dance, so most of the time wont follow you off the dance floor away from her friends.

-Also, indirect openers arent at their most effective. Its pretty direct when you go up to a girl on the dance floor. Maybe the odd neg would help but still, its very hard to DHV.

This has become a rule of mine very early on. I may change, but these are my observations so far. I didnt know Mystery agrees but glad he does.

Clearly its horses for courses and there will be some guys who only get girls on the dance floor. Hats off to them. But the key is knowing your strengths and playing to them and I think the social dynamics of dance floor game makes it very hard to attract HBs using conventional game on the dance floor.

Would be interested to hear your observations.

MA

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Mystery did say the dance floor is a trap but, I think that's only if u dont know what your doing.You dont have to be the best dancer in the world,hey i've seen guy's that cant dance to save there lifes and girls just hovered around them.

Because he is there to have fun just like them.Tyler durden said girls dont want to be the party they want to be directed to the party.So you got to stop looking to them for value or excitement.If u can potray that you can have fun by yourself and that you don't need them ,even though you enjoy the company of females.They will be attracted.

Example a week ago me and phyuga were in a lounge just danceing by ourself when a HB9 straight appraoched me and said your fun my friends are so borring, danced with me and bought me a drink.Just by the positve aura we were sending off.

And when it comes to talking on the dance it's all about body language.Now don't get me wrong you can say a few words here and there but, just remember communacation is 90% none verbal according to hitch.Hey you can also use the gambler kino tactic's to get closer, they show them at the bottom of this forum.

So good luck and may the game be with you.Also quick tip just try your best to atleast stay somewhat on bet lol.

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I think that thats a good point. But it really relies on playing "non-conventional" game, (as I know it anyway).

This probably works better if your an attractive guy or doing some major peacocking.

But I wouldnt often advocate the philosophy of ignore the girls and they will just open you.

Ok, so sometimes they may do, but I think my point is its very hard to open then DHV girls who are dancing already.

But again, horses for courses I guess, you seem to be doing well enough! And as John Nash (the original Nobel winning Game theorist) would say, if we all go after the same girls, we will all lose!

MA

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