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PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:16 am 
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As the legend Ron Burdgundy once said "Im in a glass case of emotion"

Im hating life right now when I shouldnt be, I hate myself for what Ive become, I hate myself for not even knowing how exactly I got to this low and Im terrified of how I could end up. Not a day has gone by without wondering why is my life even worth living for because right now, Im pissing it down the drain.

Im pretty much a complete loser right now and it has gotten to the point where I have anxiety in anything involving socializing. Im terrible at conversations, getting to know people, making a good first impression, displaying any little confidence in me and basically terrible at believing in myself.

None of my friends know Im struggling and I have begun to isolate myself and while I temporarily enjoy loneliness and feeling bad for myself. The reality of realizing this gets you nowhere kicks in and I hate msyelf for being such a pussy about everything.

I dont know how I got to this point where I just let people walk over me. I take shit day in and day out and do nothing about, never stick up for myself. My confidence has gotten so low to were Im terrified to even go out because Ill be so bad at trying to meet women that I just rather save the embarassment and constant rejections. Even when I do go out, I dont enjoy drinking that much and the way most people behave when drunk really pisses me off. I feel like its all fake and a big joke how people think theyre so cool and are just assholes in generals just b/c there at a bar with their friends. The drinking does help me not care as much but even when drunk, Im still too much of a pussy to even approach. My AA is so bad to where I wouldnt even take a 5-1 bet for $100 on trying to get 3 numbers in a night. I know Im not the ugliest and I always get the handsome comments from older women but I know looks dont mean that much in attraction and the qualities that do attract, I have none of.

Im still a virgin and afraid I could stay this way a long time and be a misrable lonely loser. I want to try build some confidence in me because I know it's not hard at all to close in college. Thats what even makes it worse for me too, knowing Im wasting the time of my life when its easiest. For me to have been this long in school and had this bad of rate is depressing. I just wish I wasnt such a puss but I really dont know what to do.

Im gonna stop rambling, but I have become very depressed and lonely. I dont know what to do and I just want to change, Im not asking to transform into some godly pua but just be able to not look like such a complete failure around women.

Anyone with links advice on trying to build inner game/confidence/self esteem and getting rid of AA, social anxiety and conversation tips would be really appreciated. Thanks guys


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Fuck man, all I got to say is you need to work on that inner part of yourself and develop it so your satisfied with your life as it is. I remember being at the stage that you are at now. Shit, im still recovering but the imporvements ive made are amazing. Im not gonna give you my whole life histroy but I lost all of my friends, developed some really shitty neative beliefs about myself, and as a result of that had very low self esteem. Fuck man, I can remember what my life was like it was yesterday but I cant change the past so im not even gonna invest my fucking time in it.

Ive been severely traumatized these past 2 years but at the rate im going things just keep getting better and better. Im 17 right now man and im so fucking glad I started this journey at such a young age. By the time im 20 I should have my shit handled. But all I can do for now for you man is reccomend either seeing an EMDR therapist or reading alot of great books on psychology and behavior.

Some of them are;

Frogs into princes, psycho cyernetics, 7 masters 1 path, the selfish gene, reframing, the power of now, and the way of the peaceful warrior. All of these books are great reads and you dont even have to buy them. Go to your local library and ask if they can get you those books from other libraries if those books arent currently in their libraries. Shit, I got books from different states haha.

Let me tell you this though, your not gonna get anything acomplished by sitting on your ass. So, get reacquantied with your friends and start socializing more while at the same time working on your inner game. You should see big improvements. Plus alot of these books can be found on 4shared.com if you want to get a preview or read them whenever.

Hope this hlped


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:58 pm 
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As the legend Ron Burdgundy once said "Im in a glass case of emotion"

Im hating life right now when I shouldnt be, I hate myself for what Ive become, I hate myself for not even knowing how exactly I got to this low and Im terrified of how I could end up. Not a day has gone by without wondering why is my life even worth living for because right now, Im pissing it down the drain.

Im pretty much a complete loser right now and it has gotten to the point where I have anxiety in anything involving socializing. Im terrible at conversations, getting to know people, making a good first impression, displaying any little confidence in me and basically terrible at believing in myself.

None of my friends know Im struggling and I have begun to isolate myself and while I temporarily enjoy loneliness and feeling bad for myself. The reality of realizing this gets you nowhere kicks in and I hate msyelf for being such a pussy about everything.

I dont know how I got to this point where I just let people walk over me. I take shit day in and day out and do nothing about, never stick up for myself. My confidence has gotten so low to were Im terrified to even go out because Ill be so bad at trying to meet women that I just rather save the embarassment and constant rejections. Even when I do go out, I dont enjoy drinking that much and the way most people behave when drunk really pisses me off. I feel like its all fake and a big joke how people think theyre so cool and are just assholes in generals just b/c there at a bar with their friends. The drinking does help me not care as much but even when drunk, Im still too much of a pussy to even approach. My AA is so bad to where I wouldnt even take a 5-1 bet for $100 on trying to get 3 numbers in a night. I know Im not the ugliest and I always get the handsome comments from older women but I know looks dont mean that much in attraction and the qualities that do attract, I have none of.

Im still a virgin and afraid I could stay this way a long time and be a misrable lonely loser. I want to try build some confidence in me because I know it's not hard at all to close in college. Thats what even makes it worse for me too, knowing Im wasting the time of my life when its easiest. For me to have been this long in school and had this bad of rate is depressing. I just wish I wasnt such a puss but I really dont know what to do.

Im gonna stop rambling, but I have become very depressed and lonely. I dont know what to do and I just want to change, Im not asking to transform into some godly pua but just be able to not look like such a complete failure around women.

Anyone with links advice on trying to build inner game/confidence/self esteem and getting rid of AA, social anxiety and conversation tips would be really appreciated. Thanks guys
Wow our stories are kind of similar.

I think as human beings we are all constantly finding ways to make ourselves happy. We even find happiness in feeling lonely and being alone. We might not accept it, but secretly it does make us happy.

Anyway, I just want to ask you a few questions. If you did sleep with a beautiful girl or had a girlfriend, will that make all of your problems go away and make you a satisfied man? If you weren't a virgin anymore, would that guarantee happiness in the long run? Will it make you feel you are worthy of finally fitting into society?

It's great that you want to change and move in a positive direction. I think this article will help you as much as it helped me: http://www.attractioninstitute.org/what ... se-in-life


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:26 am 
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I totally get you, it sounds like I could have written that about myself. However I am probably 50 to 100% older than you are. You are probably still young. Imagine if you were in exactly the same situation but a lot older. Just remember, everybody has problems, and yours mostly if not totally solvable.

what made me respond is you said "loathing" and that you were letting everyone walk all over you, and you don't know how it got to this point. What that tells me is you really need to get therapy that hits your subconscious mind. At this stage do not go for just self help or reading stuff on the interent, you actually need another human being to hear your story and help you. I am just now doing this and I am probably twice your age. Go Get Therapy, but it is crucial that you get the right kind of therapy.

I am not a medical provider but I will speak my mind about my own experience.

The way I look at it there are 3 main "systems" that must be considered. Conscious mind, Unconscious memories and conditioning, and your biology including brain chemistry. Hypnotherapy, NLP, and EMDR all hit your subconscious which is where your fearfull and degrading memories are stored. I have come to believe that AFC types are actually people who had crappy experiences in childhood and early teens that they never got over, but merely suppressed. Suppression is another name for self deception, and it causes all kinds of problems in all aspects of your life. Part of you always knows that things are not really right with you, and that causes a deep gnawing self doubt that prevents you from standing up for yourself. you may also have a bad case of social phobia which is also from hidden stuff in your subconscious.

Right now you feel very low, but the truth is that you are only really free after you crash and burn. You see everything as shit, but at least you can see the shit, I am sure there was a time in the past when you thought things were ok but really you had the same shit. The truth will set you free.

Get therapy. Hynpotherapy and EMDR are by far the fastest and cheapest. Some issues may be cured in one day for $150. I have had a couple hynotherapy sessions and all of them were worth the money. Regular talk therapies like psychotherapy and cognitive behavioral therapy are much slower to work, more expensive, and may just leave you with reasons why you are sick but not actually fix you. They may even make you worse because you will get the habit of rehashihing your whole life over and over again which doesn't actually solve anything.


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Hey there... im 20. Been in kinda the same situation as you because of ignoring real-life because of WoW.

Two months ago i read The Secret... And it learned me alot...
There is nothing that is overnatural...
The thing is to MASTER YOUR TOUGHTS.
You are now summarizing that your life sucks, and as long as it is a reallity for you that your life sucks, it will suck.
Start in small steps and think about small stuff that is good that happens to you, and feel graceful for them. You will start to build up more energy to be postiive and you can start thinking about bigger things.... as this happens over time your life will only be positive and you cant judge yourself.

Think of it this way... the toughts you have planted earlier in your life is what you have become..


It's the law of attraction... equal attracts equal... negative toughts attract more negative toughts... you get my point.


So dont stop up waiting, just start thinking on all the things u like, and whenever people are beeing negative to u, just start thinking on something positive again... In 20 years you will think "Fuck wish i had this experience back then" , its just like Im thinking I had this experience when I was 14 years old :)


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Hey don't worry buddy. You're not alone man. I had the same situation for years. I used to use drugs and alcohol to self-destruct myself and i'm not even gonna go into the rest, cos its too much to talk about. But what i am saying, is there is a way out. And i know this because I'm experiencing it now. I hit 21, and thought "fuck what am i going to do, its either sort it or end it."

and then i discovered hypnosis CDs which i was very skeptical at first, but i had nothing to lose, so i tried them. and all though they didnt work at first, and i realised my issues were far more complex, within 2 months of daily usage, things got better. and then something still wasnt right so i booked into a psychologiest, and he helped me to understand my situation better, which meant i could focus on individual problems. i then became addicted to hypnosis CDs, using different ones every day, for self esteem, confidence, psotive thinking, blah de blah de blah, and fuck, after 5 months, something has changed. the switch has been switched. id say im 95% healed, man. you should check Glenn Harrold, Paul Scheele Paraliminals, and Paul Mckenna. You may laugh, but if you put your mind to it, youll notice a massive difference. ive gone from being a suicidal, substance addict, no confidence, not washing, not eating, not caring, to the complete opposite. i now love myself inside! DO IT!


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I hear what your saying my man. So many people have the same problem. You might want to check this out, it will help.

components-of-true-inner-confidence-vt63457.html


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Hey man, I've been in the same situation around two years ago,
The best advice i can give is:

1. You feel bad, therefore don't try to think your way out of it. Your feelings are the problem, not your thoughts. Therefore, to get out you must persuade yourself to feel differently upon life. Thinking as a way to change feeling.

2. Whos got the better view of the pitch, the players on it or you looking from the stands? Going to see some qualified help or asking your friends could help, as unlike you, they can see the much bigger picture.

3. Sort the problem out! Ten years from now, what if your in exactly the same fucking position as you are now? Fuck. Zan Perrion "Move towards that which you find beautiful".
FACT There's only one person you can change in this life- take one big guess at who that is.


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The best advice I can give you (that worked for me) is that you need a serious confidence boost. These are a few things that helped me out a TON.

I gotta preface this by saying I was a small dude for all of HS and it wasn't until college that I figured my shit out.

1) get a gym membership
get some protein powder

If your not standing up for yourself its b/c your not physically intimidating

If you really want to get serious... join a rough martial art like jujitsu or muay thai

Working out gives you a ton of confidence especially when you notice the results

not only that... but working out releases endorphins that make you feel happy... this helps counter depression[/u]

2) Do something that gives you confidence

For me... nothing gives me confidence like public speaking. Its not something that I do very often but when I do... my game is amazing after

Suck at public speaking? Find a passion of yours and absolutely crush it

Don't have a passion?? Find one

3) stop caring about
-results
-what people think


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