unfortunatly day 2 is my sticking point

right, let me start from the begining.

i was in a club, talking to my pals just enjoying a drink and not doing any sarging due mainly to the fact my wing man was off ill.
Anyways thier i was when one of my pals comes in and informs me that my buddy sam is off his trolly drunk outside and nees help gettin home.
so i go outside and a fella is dealing with him trying to get him home i notice a dude and a HB9 stand thier watching so as if like instinct i go over and introduce myself to them starting with the dude 'Hi, my names lach pleasure to meet you' (with a alpha male hand shake thrown in for good measure, which set the blockes for turning him into a AFC)
i start talking to the guy about the subaru impreza thats parked near by saying how its a greate car he waffeled on about nissian skyliners beaing better.. but anyways after i created some rappot with him i talked to the girl a little, starting with how do you all know each other?
after i go to my bud sam who by this point is lying on the floor and pick him up to take him home, im taking him down the street to where i am parked when i hear the sound of heels running on the floor, i turn round and thier is the HB9 on her own following me she comes over and says 'i'm gonna come with you' too which i replyed 'you seam cool, sure you can come along' and proceeded to get my buddy home. i was taking him up the hill when he fell on the floor and threw up all over the place in the middle of the road, at this point i turn to her and say 'i only met this fella today, (which was a lie, but not a bad only i dident know him that well)i told him to be confortable in his own skin but the others kept egging him on to down his drinks, they even egged him to down thier drinks!, ok by them i mean me as well ) to which she replyed 'hehe, your funny' (brilliant!)
anyways we left him to sit for a bit and collect his thoughts when i noticed a spanish villa like looking house accrosss the road i said 'thats a beautiful house, one day im gonna live thier!' and walked over too it. HB9 followed me (and left sam in the middle of the road half unconcious) and aggred with my statement and asked if she could live in it with me, ofc i replayed with 'i'm not sure, will you be able to pay your rent and do your share of the cooking and cleaning? this aint no free ride you know!' and she replies 'yes ofc i will, i will even get a 2nd job if i have too'.
anyways a few guys come along and a HB8 as they walk past they ask 'is he ok' and i reply 'yeh hes just had a really good night, hehe he reminds me of the guy on the advert who drank too much' (they all laugh at my joke) and walk over to me i said ' thanks for the offer of help but im just gonna get this little fella home when i can get him to walk to the car park' at this point i shake thier hands and give them high-fives in a alpha fashion (my hand comes down onto thiers)
after this i grab sam and help him walk to the taxi rank to get him home so i can isolate HB9, we arrive at the taxi rank, but they wont order him a taxi coz hes too drunk, so i ask for a glass of water to sober the fella up a bit but they said they dident have any. so i tryed to catch them out by saying 'so why do you have a kettle?' they went red and just said no water (lmao).
anyways i turn to HB9 and say 'you w8 here with him ill drive to him if we cant get him to the car' she aggres and asks me to hurry back.
i go to the car park and drive down to the taxi rank i go in the boot and pull out my work jacket (a big overall docks jacket) and put it on him because he has town up all overhimself and i dident want puke in my car, i asked HB9 if she was comming and she did! she willingly got in my car not knowing me at all (about 30-40 mins had passed since i first met her), i drive to sams house (after finaly getting the address out of him) and drop him off i then return to the car and its just me and HB9 before i say anything i look up in my mirror (as shes in the back seat still) and she is smilying shyly at me. i dont make a deal off it like i never noticed it and drove off, during the drive (back to the car park) i made simple chit chat to keep her entertained like 'im a big fan of trance music, what do you think of the genre?'...
we arrive at the car park and we walk back to the club and meet up with 1 of my pals and his GF, i introduce them all and funnyly enough my plas GF knew HB9 from the chip shop at which she worked so i let them 2 have a girly chat, whilst i chatted with my bud, we all walked to the kebab shop and got a kebab this is where i found out she was a vegiterian, dosent really make a difference but hay-ho thought id add it none the less .
we go back to my car and i drive my pal back to his house (his GF lives with him) at this point i found out HB9 lives only 2 doors away from my pal!.
some chatting comenced amoung all 4 of us and finaly we came to the descion that my pal and his GF would go in and she would get back in the car with me and we would go for a drive. (fan-bloody-tastic:-))
i drive around a 30-min route on the journey i let her play with my phone (which controls the songs on my car stero) (i did this because i wanted to keep her occupied and happy so she dident get bored and fall asleep lol, basicaly to keep her intrest peeked, i was once toled by a PUA that when you put sumthing in a girls hand she gets intrested in it and wants to do sumthing with it (also a good joke of 'it also works with phone's ;p))we drove for a bit and chatted a little like jobs and friends and such sillyness, when i came across some woods car park i remember is a popular dogging place so i drive in to test her responce (i dident say anything) but she was cool with it i parked the car and turned to her and said ' its your turn, im gonna teach you to drive' she was excited!
i let her get in the drivers seat and piss up my gear box and cluth , but after i suggested we go back to her house and watch tv, she aggred it was a good idea.
we went back to her house and went up to her room(it was a mess) thier was a bed, her tv and another seat, so i put a stack of papers on the chair whilst she was turning the tv on a layed sitting up in the bed, and she joined me under the covers, we watched an episodes of 'how i met your mother' and then i said she should turn the tv off, she did and i layed down in the dark in her bed when i felt her press her lips up agenst mine, i dident resist and let her do her thing, i slowly ran my hand around her body making sure to pleasure every sensitive spot (thiers a special word for thiese but it slips my mind) well long story short i droped my boxers and did the nasty .
after she said i could spend the night (it was 3:30 at this point)and go home in the morning but i declined as she said when her nan finds me she would kick me out, i gathered my stuff and left, kissing her goodbye and she escourted me to the door, as i left she said she would add me on facebook (as she dident have a phone, she lost it a few weeks back). the next day i go on facebook and she hasent added me, so i send her a quick invite and log off for 4 days.

now i hope you enjoyed my long winded story, but i felt all the deatails where nessary for a accurate descion. i want to set up a 2nd date if you will, to see her again but she hasent sent me a message on facebook or even tryed to contact me (as far as i know)not having a phone makes it hard for her to txt me, so i need some advice on what to say to her over facebook in a private message to set up a 2nd date as im not sure weather this was just a 1-night and she is having buyers remorse or if its possible to further this relationship (yes im comming down with 1itis)
and help on time periods/where to go/ what to say to her is apreachated ofc

facts to help/fun facts
- she is 18, i am 20
- i told her i work at morrisons (which i do) and like to play on the forklift like i was 6 again in my racing car bed
- she turned out to be my bosses step-daughter (lmfao)

sorry for spelling/grammer, im lazy+tired a potent combo ;p.

if any more info is required feel free to ask
thx again,
Lach

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Classic. Made this mistake many times myself.

The only reason you went into such detail is to convey one thing - that it was an awesome night.

You know it was an awesome night, she knows it was an awesome night, but did you acknowledge that in any way? Nope. You left instead of staying the night, and you left without giving any indication that the night was awesome and you're looking forward to seeing her again.

The problem is that the PUA community tends to create a mindset where if you show any interest at all, you're being AFC. Not true. If you do get really inside a girl's feelings, and she expresses lots of IOI, and you don't reward her at some point by expressing some back, she will rightly think you don't actually care that much, and this was just some elaborate player scheme.

Don't be afraid of returning IOIs - you have to do it, and you have to do it alpha.

That was textbook - as you're parting she gives every indication that she wants to catch up again, she's all give give give, and then after you go, she realises there was no reciprocation (it's just a feeling) and then creates reasons in her head to justify them, and doesn't call you back.

All you can do is wait it out. What you're waiting for is her to contact you, or to bump into her some other way and build the attraction again (and this time, reciprocate her advances), or maybe, you casually invite her out to something safe, and she actually gets back to you eventually. In this situation, sometimes i've had an eventual response and second chance, by sending one invite, and then just forgetting about it - then we ran into each other on chat or whatever, and build the attraction again, she apologises for not getting back to me and makes some excuse, but it's started again so it's all good.

In the mean time - move on. Sorry man.

to start off, thx for the reply
you make a good point and reasons to back it up, after reading your post the pieces seam to fit and it makes sence.
after mulling it over, you said bump into her in sum other way?
now i know im pulling at strings here but would that include place of work? because she works at the local chippy.

line i was thinking along was:
*walk in and not pay real attention to anything, when its my turn to order look up and look suprised to see her 'hey i had a real good time the other night, and you seam cool, you wanna catch a movie or grab a cup of coffee sumtime?'

im giving her a descision instead of dedicating to one thing, also by saying you seam cool its giving a legit reason to invite her out instead of the reason she might be thinking off.
let me know what you think.
Lach

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Yes that sounds like a great idea. Don't focus too hard on it playing out a certain way, or it will go weird. The moment you would realistically see her, make an effort to get her attention (without seeming weird) Remember you are alpha, the good guy that says what he wants when he wants, but without being rude and interrupting. Like maybe she's serving someone else and you are in the adjacent line - don't just look at her and smile just cause she's busy serving a customer, squeeze in a "hey [name]!" surprised to see her, and then continue to look for an opening to get her attention, becon her over to the other side of the counter. The more difficult it is to get a free moment, the more alpha you will get to display yourself to make sure you get that moment

But I always always always try to word things as a statement and not a question, unless it would be weird to do so - and then if I have to ask a question I still do it as alpha as possible... if I know them well enough i might throw in a related joke... anyway - my "asking out lines" have nearly always gone something like "You seem cool, we should X sometime", play off your strengths though - I use the fact that I can be very cheeky and mischievous.

Also if you have something that's about to happen that you can invite her out to, that's always good. Not entirely necessary though.

You're gonna probably have to do a mini "build attraction" thing though. Get her attention, look like you're gradually remembering how cool she was while you talk to her, and THEN ask her out. Watch the vibe though. See if you've got her attention - best moment is if she really should be getting back to her job and yet you've both stopped talking and she's waiting for you to say something It's a bit of an art (just gets better with your own personal experience) building it up, watching the vibe for that perfect moment, without waiting so long that you miss the chance.

And the reason why we're doing a mini build attraction thing, is to stay congruent with your previous behaviour. You were aloof, and maybe forgot how cool it was. Now that you're seeing her again, you're remembering how good it was and acting on the urge to ask her out. If you start out "hey there you are! let's do something" it's a bit too much like you tried to play cool, then changed your mind - and you certainly didn't do that, hahaha...

reignighting old flames never was my thing but heres how it went:

i walked into the shop and w8ed in line when it was my turn (i was talking to a different girl) i aske questions i already knew the answer too just to play a mini game on her friend and incite jelousy, also she hadent noticed me so hering my voice would alet her to my precence and the fact im talking to her friend, when she saw this she walked over next to her and just looked at me full body launage looking at me, and dident say a word.
i continuted to lightly game her friend whilst throwing a few playful negs her way to try and recover some attraction afterwards i noticed that gap you mentioned where nothing was said and she was still staring at me and not really paying attention to customers, so i decided to throw in a quick time restrient and said along the lines of 'my friend at work is throwing this gigg and im gonna show up for the free food and to show some support, but mainly the free food, i had a really great time the other day and you seam cool so you should totaly be my +1 but its a limited time offer so get your arse into gear before the spot is filled. but she dident know what to answer, so staying true to the time resrignt i said i had to go and she should leave a message on facbook and ill read it when i get the time.
even if this dose all go pear shapped ive learn alot about 2nd time gaming so in all its a win/win situation for me.

Lach

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Wow you did good, but I got a funny vibe with the way you handled the end.

I think you would have had her once you talked about going for the free food etc.

It's just the way you actually asked her along - possibly too forward, saying she should be your +1, then suddenly too cavalier, leaving without getting a response from her.

I think you did awesome right up until this point, I think maybe you got too nervous and resorted to "player mode" again - I get the feeling she's now still left with the feeling that - you have the ability to get her, but you won't care about her or treat her right.

The key always seems to be 2 things - not being nervous, and keep in mind what you want. Eg. if you know you need to get something more definite, then you should orchestrate things in a way to get that.

There is always a point where you have to act like she's getting somewhere with you, and you start to show brief moments of your more genuine, romantic side (still alpha of course) instead of always staying in player mode. You needed to do that once you had her attention. I probably wasn't very explicit on this in the last post, but this has to be the progression of things. Romantic doesn't even mean monogamous - it just means caring, but still alpha.

And yes you are right - even if this doesn't go well, you learned heaps, especially going into that store and trying to get her back.

For this one I'd say play it cool still. Leave her a FB message as promised, be FUN, make a joke, be alpha, possibly try to show that warmer side but only if you think you can without being creepy - it's really not easy to do that over text, that's why we do as much as we can face to face.

And then in the mean time, move on.

well chalk one up for me, i have myself a date.
thx for the tips conker they really helped and i appreciate it.

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No worries man, that's all I need to hear.