Hey AFCs/PUAs and MPUAs everywhere!

This is the first time I have posted a topic on this forum.

I am new to the game and only really started doing night and day approaches since Mid-January. I have got varying degrees of success but I have made baby steps each time and kept a journal of my progress to remind me of my achiements.

One thing that I am currently using as an excuse for not doing more nightgame is the fact I know no other PUAs in Cambridge. I have 2 friends who are into it but they live further away and aren’t really available to wing me.

I have decided I can’t hide behind that excuse and that I should at the very least go out by myself and do some night game.

I have never done this before and I’d appreciate any and all tips anyone can give me on how to deal with this positively and learn as much as I can on this night.

I want to do as many approaches as I can and at the very least get used to approaching and doing game by myself at night.

Thanks!

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"Too much patience will get you nowhere" - Doctor Who (Tom Baker)

You could always try some kind of lost friend routine.

U - hey i need your help, i've managed to lose my friend, Haven't seen him in a while n he was pretty wasted. He was wearin (describe nonexistant friend)
Set - bla bla help u find him, i've not seen him, something like that
U - well last time i saw him we were around here for a while, mind if i wait with you guys for a few mins to see if he comes back here?
Set - yeah nps bla bla
U - gogo routines n shiz

I use this every now n then, and people are normally happy to help.
then a good exit can be along the lines of

U - i don't think he's gonna come back, so i'm gonna go n look for him again. Can u do me a favor n (try finding me if you see him?/text me if you see him *#close*/keep an eye out for him) depending on how well the attempt went.

Hey Tom im pretty new to the game, lately iv been out sarging by myself too (as most of my friends either have girlfiends or just arent willing to be wingmen) results so far have been mixed and although there are positives to be taken from each night it does get a bit boring at times and having a good wing will probably make the learning experience alot easier.

If ur looking for a wing then get in touch (i wasnt allowed to leave my email here the forum are worried about spammers n whatnot) anyway i live in cambridge as well , im 22, pretty laid back and not too fussed about the sarging locations (anywhere thats target rich!) lol my ultimate goal (as is every other person's) is to finally get good at this !!!

hope to hear from u soon mate

I have been sarging at a local bar/club by myself for the past two weeks. I find night time sarging to be much easier than day sarging. I dont have too much experience but I would recommenced getting to the bar/club early in the night. I've noticed that right as the dance floor opens up, that it is mainly groups of girls that are the first one's out there... so get out on the floor early and approach those girls. It makes it easier since there are less guys out there and girls will be impressed by your confidence and you will establish social proof by dancing with these girls.

To approach girls on the dance floor I usually simply dance fairly close to them and attempt to make eye contact and move closer. Sometimes its clear the girl is not interested, but that is never too much of a problems since if your at a decent place, there will be girls everywhere.

You can also get away with simply dancing behind them and bumping into them slightly. It's less nerve racking than the front approach and girls can be receptive to it. Just be careful dont get caught as a creeper just standing behind a girl dancing without making any sort of move.

These are the main tips I have. I haven't made too much conversation during my last couple outings as it is loud as heck in there, but thats something im going to work on this weekend.

I've been going out on my own and working the Lifestyle Challenge. I've been approaching groups in bars and have had some moderate success. People usually seem to be open to having a conversation. I've noticed that if I toss an off handed "Hey, how's it going?" over my shoulder right before I open the set I get good results.

I have to admit that I'm nervous as hell going out on my own, but I'm determined to learn this game and have a social life as well as let laid and build some LTMR's...
I'm headed out for my 4th night this evening and am excited to see what happens.

The only advice I can think of to give is look at your local events calender online and see what else is going on that night so you can always say that you have somewhere to be if you get stuck or just want to display a little value... by saying that you are on your way to meet friends... offers a good false time constraint and allows for possible escape when/if things get uncomfortable...

I plan on doing half a dozen approaches tonight and then reflecting on how they went before I take the next step and start working in disqualifiers this coming week... (Day 10 of the Lifestyle Challenge)

Yours Truely
Nicodemus...

Post in the meet/wing section on every forum you know of. I know wings around the area you live, and I live in the US, you shouldn't have any problems man.

Once you get the hang of it night gaming solo is easy and a blast.
Generally speaking I try to open any and all sets avaliable.
This makes it look like everyone knows you giving you social proof
as well as giving you something to do so that your not standing round
looking out of place or creepy. From here you can merge groups to
get where or what you want or alternatively just break from the group
and the majority of the time they'll find you later and engage you.
Hope this helps and congarts on night gaming solo. It takes balls the
first few times.

When ure solo its kind gay but it will motivate you to talk and Spit hardcore i just did that tonight got 3 # make sure u get out and go ;
Find a group of guys be friend them and then go talk to girls i find that's easier for me; always get ure opener in the tip of ure tongue ready to go be friendly l; i got a AMOGGED get ready for that make sure u get quick responses ready to go


AMOG : Dude Thats my wife and hugged her
Me : She's my little sister i hugged her were going to get a pedicure tomorrow lol

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Difficulties are things that show a person what they are.” Epictetus

Sarging by yourself is an advantage.. cuz if the group isn't feeling your friends, that won't be held against you.. Don't lie about being with someone else.. say your friends are coming later...

Don't ever make up stories to talk to women... What works best.. Approach, calmly, be like "hi.. you guys are cute, so i thought i'd come over and say hi." They'll think thats cute and they'll give you a good minute of their time, then its up to you to escalate. They know how difficult it is to go up to a group by yourself, so they'll be sympathetic, and notice your confidence lever. Regardless of how hot they are, girls dont have that many sober-acting guys telling them they're cute. Dudes usually beat around the bush and say "heyyy, how ru doing... blah blah." thats unattractive.. and then theres the drunken slobs who get that "your a piece of meat stare in their eyes" (and those r the ones taht tell them they're pretty, and it end ups coming off as skeavy.)

get your head up right and call yourself a male lion
repeatedly.

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dressed in majestic splendor and touched by the flames of eternal fire...

Good on you for recognizing that you were making excuses and moving past them.

The main piece of advice i think you need is that when you go out you are going to NEED to make friends, quickly.

If people see you by yourself and wandering around its going to kill your value (DLV - demonstration of lower value)
Feel free to lie if people ask you about where your friends are (the point is you DO NOT want to DLV yourself) once you have gotten in with a group you will find it much easier to open other groups because your going to have people to wave at/associate with which will make other sets more responsive.

The dance flloor:

I can dance, for me going to club alone is no problem because I can get the WHOLE room focused on me and my dancing on the stage even if im alone, that DHV's me enough that the rest is easy.

Going up to girls and bumping into them from behind to get their attention......I personally wouldn't recommend it - you might come across as drunk or rude and your going to scare them because it will be a shock to approach from behind, plus your body language will be all fked up - you will be telegraphing way too much interest when they turn around.

If you are not a dancer then be careful on the dance floor - so long as you are having fun and look confident whether or not you can dance isn't such a big thing to most girls - having to balls to go up there and have a good time will separate you from a lot of other men in clubs.

The other downside to the dance floor is it's much harder to talk and risker - if she's with friends its harder to engage them on the floor itself and there is a bigger chance of them wanting to move somewhere else i.e toilets, table, bar, outside ect ect.

to cap it up:

1. As soon as you go into a club - find a set, open and associate - even if its a set of guys - you I will find it much easier if you have a safe spot/a group to hang with so you dont DLV by being alone.

2. Don't be afraid to move on (Don't just get with one group and settle into your comfort zone) - The more people who recognize you that night the higher your social value is going to be. You are the king, everyone is your servant - You should have an attitude of a rock star/king and everyone should want to know you - that, i feel is a very important part of solo night game.
Having said that - if your comfortable with one group or find your options are appealing (a HB is responding the way u want) then by all means stay with them - this is just suggestive advice.

3. Goals - If i am going solo my goal is to have fun - I keep it at that, I don't even think about anything else - if you are a fun guy having fun then the rest will follow (conversations, girls, numbers ect ect) a lot more naturally, if your a creeper hunting for girls/numbers/kisses people will pick up on that.


Have a good one man.
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Hey man

I've been doing this kind of thing too, same reasons. Give this thread a read and tell me what you think

http://www.pick-up-artist-forum.com/wi ... le Scamps