I am very confused after first try last night. Need help because I have doubts. Yesterday I went to a Bar (kind of disco/club) and did many aproaches with many different openers and everything worked fine (not perfect - but I was enought happy for first time) I got kisses too. To increase my value I used trick with light leg touch when passed wimen. I used this trick many times like 40-50 times, maybe more (i was continuing doing that all night) even I was talking to my friend when her girlfriend was with him (they were face to face) and I've done to her that light touch her leg and I didn't look at her but she did at me after (and I could see her face - she didnt know whats going on). I am quiet good dancer but in the past nobody wanted dance with me but my friends, till last night. They told me that I dance very well. I was dancing with maybe 20-30 girls that night. I was swaping one by one, just for practising. I used the trick with bum to bum, works very well. And...... after 2 hours a security man approached me and say that I have to leave the Bar (disco/club) and the reason was that somebody didnt like me. So he showed me Exit and that was the end of the first try. And question is what happened? What I did wrong? Maybe I danced with wrong girl, maybe somebody (security? there are cameras so if you got too much attention they observe you what are you doing and they know what you do - they knew what I am doing), maybe I touch a girl and she complained to somebody there? But nobody complained to me or tell me hey guy stop it or dont dance with her anymore or something like that. What should I thinking? What should I do when security man approached me and told me what he told?

I am not native English speaker so expect not proper english. I did my best to describe the problem. I would be very happy to get any help. Please !

Did you have similar problem?

dude, I totally know what its like to be approached by security guys when you're trying to work your game. I've had it happen to me several times. Is it possible that your energy was way too high? I remember around this time last year, a bouncer guy interrupted me in the middle of my game and informed me that he was getting lots of complaints from other customers about me and I guess I was gaming a bit too hard that night due to my high energy. As a result, I was told to leave the club and I haven't gone back since. It just hurt my game at that period cause I thought I was doing so good. The only advice I would give you in this case is just watch how you present yourself and be a bit more laid back when you're gaming. After all, I've often heard that your chances of being laid that night happen more greatly if you're more laid back. Just something to think about here.

Well tey have to bounce people who are too drunk. Maybe someone thought that you guys were just alcoholics or dealers.

Remember you have to be smooth. Can´t go and work same tricks on everyone, or even everyone for that matter. Pinpoint the girls when you work them, if it doesn´t work then jump to the next one.

Remember it´s not your fault, even my mom got kicked out once just because she was waiting too long for her friend.

But be smooth.

You may be the PUA but the bouncer is the gate keeper, generally dislike them a lot... unless you know them then they are awesome.

Really you just have to accept them kicking you out, or you can create a scene but where will that get you. A black eye, broken jaw?

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Ouch.

Well, I always try to chat a bit with security.

"How's it going to night?", "Expecting a lot of people?"

Small-talk for a minute...

"Keep up the good work!"

Especially if it's I place I go to a little now and then. I've never been kicked out of a club or had any problems with security either.

On the contrary they've been checking up on me to see if everything's okay and what-not, even listened to me when I've pointed out people who snuck in and so on. (People I've seen sneaking in, never "innocents")

Yeah, being friends with the security guys will always help as well cause even if you find yourself in some trouble, they'll usually just give you a warning at first. Not only that, but they also give some pretty good encouragement when it comes to talking to the girls. And if you end up being threatened by their boyfriends, you can always go up to the security guy and have that jealous boyfriend thrown out for trying to get violent with you. In fact, one security guy even told me once that the more calm and laidback I am, my chances of being laid that night go up really high. Something to definitely think about here. I'd say befriending the bouncers/security guys is the way to go here.

not sure what this leg touching thing is, but seems a bit inappropriate and probably the reason you got kicked out.

Kratos watch for Gambler videos. You will change your mind about light leg touchning. Girls are confused about that because they dont now if you do this by accident or if you mind to do this. They start looking at you and the other girls see that they looking at me so all the girls start looking at me. Movie Star effect. This way you increase your value. But right now I realize that this have to be moderate. Not too much.

Unfortunately, these types of things do happen. Good thing we are in the USA and things are a lot better here. I know two persons who went once to an ethnic club where everyone was an ex-national of an Eastern-bloc country. They are very tall, good-looking, and personable, and get lots of girls. They almost got in a fight with a band of other guys who were just jealous. That band was ready to fight. These things happen all the time in Eastern Europe and in Latin America (in my experience). I think it's good that it gets diffused a lot better here in the States.