Alright, so I don't understand the hype with online sarging.

To me, it just seems a bit weird. Adding people on facebook and saying hello IS just weird. There are no two ways about it.

The main problem I have with it, is that game is all about being socially interactive with people in the real world. But if you game online then you're not meeting anyone in the real world. You might as well be talking to someone on Warcraft or whatever.

The Game was meant to improve you as a person and talking to people on the internet doesn't do that because you're just typing words. You don't have to think on your feet, you don't have to use your body and you don't really have to even try. Canned material works fine, because nobody can hear the way in which you say it.

I'm wondering how many guys on here use ONLY online sarging to meet women. It's not a remotely good way to meet people. The reason people use Eharmony or match.com is because they don't know how to TALK to women. Those are the skills you should be learning by using this forum. Not what to type to other people.


I say turn your computer off, go out and open a set with what you've learnt in the past two years. If you can do that, you won't need to know what to say on bloody facebook because you'll already have the skillset required to do that.

I honestly don't think this forum should even be here. If you know what to do in the real world, you know what to do online. It's no different.

(Excuse the incoherence of this, it was a rant.)

Please give me feedback and don't bite my head of for having an opinion. Feel free to discuss though. If you put forward a good argument, you might even convert me to it!

Good points! It's a sad truth, but many guys will sit behind a computer and use that as an excuse to not get out into the real world and talk to women. Well, it's quite the reality check when those same guys get a woman to meet them in person and they find out that "oh shit...I actually DO need some game if I want to close this!"

And how does one get game? By practicing in the real world, or course! I'm a huge advocate of online game. I think it's a great logistical tool that has gotten me laid A LOT over the years. But I have real world game. If any of you guys reading this board think that you can skip the process of learning game in the real world, sit behind your computer and think you're going to magically turn that into real LAYS, you're going to be in for a rude awakening.

Online is not the be-all, end-all of pickup. At best, it should be a SUPPLEMENT to the sarging you do IN THE REAL WORLD.

All that being said though, for the guys that do understand that you need to have real life game to make online game work, I'm glad that this resource is here for us to discuss a little T&T.

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Online game should just be another venue to game girls. As JohnnyC69 said, it should not replace real world game.

I think there is a place for online. It can't be a replacement for face to face stuff. I do think that it can help people get to later steps. It can let you sort of develop a personality as well. Personally, I think it's allowed me to find out just how far I can go with what I say. By becoming more bold online I've become more bold in real life. I really think there is a place for it. Whether it's real life or online you want there to be mystery to the girl. You want the girl's imagination working in your favor and creating this image of you being interesting, fun and being someone she wants to know more. Since she has less to go on, I think to a degree it's easier to accomplish that online.

Personally, I turn to the online stuff out of convenience. If I had a long day with work, it's just simpler sometimes to come home, kick back, and send a few messages here and there. I can watch the game and be able to focus on what's going on and not have to be in some noisy bar. Messaging someone then is simple and not a distraction and it isn't in the way of what I'm doing. It's simply multitasking and making good use of my time.

I've met some pretty amazing women because of the net. Not everyone is completely defective. Yes you can meet some disasters sometimes but it's more rare than most think. There is just simply opportunity online. You can take advantage of that opportunity or not. We should take the opportunity to meet the women we want to meet no matter what the venue or situation. The same applies in real life. If you see an attractive woman, more than likely you have one chance in your life to go up and meet her. Essentially we should always take this chance and be open to possibility. I think it's simply wise to allow online stuff to be a device to have this possiblity as well.

I get the impression that a lot of guys do use online sarging as there only method and their success rate is probably pretty low.

I would never randomly message a girl because, to me, that seems odd. Although, at the moment, approaching itself still seems quite odd to me as I'm not really used to it all yet.

I would say online game has a validity to it, but only after the initial meeting. You can build attraction via facebook as it can just be a different method to phone game but I wouldn't say it was a place to meet women.

By going to a girl in a club and gaming her is already a DHV because not every guy would do that. But I would argue messaging a random HB is a DLV because like...well, it's much easier and a bit of a cop out (in my humble opinion..)

Still, if it works then don't try and let me stop you. I just hope that its not slowly becoming a replacement for face to face and for some, maybe less confident guys, I think it is.

This is just my opinion...

Ok giving a girl your facebook/myspace or any social networking site....

Pro's -
Can chat and get to know girls better
Can check out her pics, see it was just a one off that she looked good

Con's -
The minute she is on you FB acount you have taken away that "Mystery" air that you worked hard to build up when u first met her. She can see you at your best and worst..... this is a massive down side

so I know I have nowhere near covered all of the angles on this because to be honest, i dont ever give out my fb to girls im gaming (unless ofcourse they wer already friends)... I just see that the control that you lose by giving girls you fb details is too much to give away.

When all they have is a phone number, you have all the control, how long you leave it to get in touch, what they find out about you, etc.... im currently gaming a girl, she said

Her: whats your second name?
Me: you just want my surname so that you can stalk me on facebook.
Her: Yeah maybe
Me: I thought you were cool? Don't you ever take a risk? haha
Her: Hmm we'll see

Final thought:
If a girl has seen everything on your facebook, all your friends comments, all your pics, all your hobbies, everything..... what else is there for her to find out about you? There is nothing she can find out about you in person that she cant just with a click of her mouse..... surely we should value ourselves more than that? If a girl wants to find out about me... shes gonna have to come out for a drink and ask me questions, thats part of the excitement of a date.