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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 1:45 pm 
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Well she's pretty rude when you are acting nice - when you act nice you switch roles. She just doesn't want you to act nice and when you switch to the female polarity ( freezing out etc more woman like behaviour ) she chases because that's the image she values. Im not saying she is gay(or maybe she likes it idk) im saying she complies to value and when you behave like most woman do she perceives it as value - her mind sees it as value. in other words... behaviour that most woman put up like freeze outs etc complies to her reality thus she perceives it as value.

she's only rude because she/you acts in a certain way , maybe because she doesn't value the relationship. she likes to take lead role but also sees paradoxal value. Maybe she has alot of guy friends or grow up wihout a mom, she does not want you to give your power away by acting nice.

Actually you are still in gaming stage and not really in relationship stage , she is still qualifying you with shit test and so forth. Like i said she want power in relationships but also subconciously dislike people who give their power away - she wants you to act like a PUA with the freeze outs and stuff.
My advice would be to not invest, just act like you don't have a relationship because it's clear she doesn't want to go exclusive yet. You have to get on the same level by thinking the same as her about going exclusive. She probably knows you want to go exclusive because you translated it through subconcious social cues.

Not to be rude but these type of girls often date assholes , they want to be treated like bitches, same like girls who tell you last of their 5 Boyfriends cheated so they hate it - but also are attracted to it. player type of girls ... either you like it or you hate it... reason they act like this is out of social conditioning by parents or previous boyfriends. do you see the lack of self esteem covered by rude behaviour ? she acts like a bitch .. .because she is a bitch to herself ... thus she is a bitch to a certain degree ... don't worry i like bitches as well especially arrogant ones and had long relationships with them, but when shit hits the fan they hit overture bitch mode. There is alot to it but the main mindset would be to not give a shit, don't take her rude behaviour serious - either bite back/pipe it back to her by imitating ( negging) or you freeze out., don't act like you have a serious relationship.

some people are just not what you expect them to are - some are frustrated some are bitches and some are very lose and open. there is no way to change her BUT do realize she puts up a non-authentic personality / role , people who act harsh are only covering up some of their emotional flaws - meaning how she responds to you is not who she really is right now, you are in gaming stage - your relationship is open for a reason.
ok so i started doing "girl" freeze outs and stuff,although this also means reacting in a way,i do it with a reason.

here's the new story : i asked her out one day,she said she's busy but gave me a serious reason this time and also another day we should meet.i know this wasn't a shit test,but i had a feeling this lowers my value anyway.i know i don't have to react to external validation,etc,but anyway... i didn't call her the day we were supposed to meet. and she ignored me from that day on IM(up till now she always initiated the contact,now i can't contact her since i'm a ignored contact).

from a point of view i could say she's getting easy pissed off,i don't have to care
BUT since i am really cold to her every once in a while now,i think she might be annoyed by my "coldness".this situation would be really stupid ,cause i'm not like that anyway.

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Ok Lode here you go..

I just got into a LDR not too long ago but I feel like the progress is slowing down, or coming to a halt altogether. A lot of progress was made in the first two months or so (obviously) but now it seems to be slowing down. Maybe its just normal but I would like to see your take on it.


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love your answer to jonobono8888

really opened my eyes alot..

On my LDR (2000 km) i have become rather sex fixated..

and when she doesent say sweet things.. i would get grumpy.. or i wouldnt say anything sweet to her then..

Well. i knew something was wrong.. so i checked this forum.. saw your post.. read it.. really helped me getting me back on track thanks...

som1 get this guy a nobel price


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So me and my gf of 15 months have just started a "break". We both have some issues with eachother and she feels like some space will help us clear the air, after a lengthy talk. I said if she wants a break and thinks it will help I wont stop her but that I enjoy being with her. She complains I have become more centered on her for my happiness ( I agree and am trying to address this) and personally I am disappointed with our sex life and how she takes me for granted and the nice things I do for her that get no return.

This is my first real relationship and I have never really had a "break". Im planning on taking it easy and meeting some more people as well as focusing on school and friends and family. Im just curious what I should be doing after this "break" of course depending on how she comes back to it either leave or stay and work things out. I personally want to work things out but I'm not sure how she feels.

Sorry its not really a question, just kind of feeling input on my situation and what usually goes down after a "break" (of course it cant really be answered) just want a little insight from past experiences.


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well like you already said you have reasons for not reacting, if you really cared you would contact her. Maybe it's not concious but your unconcious mind is having a different understanding about value right now.
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from a point of view i could say she's getting easy pissed off,i don't have to care
BUT since i am really cold to her every once in a while now,i think she might be annoyed by my "coldness".this situation would be really stupid ,cause i'm not like that anyway.
You didn't call her that day , did she called you ? look there could be zillion of reasons why you didn't call - she is just easily pissed.

Do you want someone who is pissed this fast ? When you speak to her again act slightly unexpected - she probably wants you to confrim her ideas about how you don't like her and how you're cold. If you don't like acting cold - stop acting cold.
Do realize what your seeing her is her own insecurities , when a girl doesn't call me i don't think '' she doesn't like me , she probably hooked up with another guy'' NO... what i will think is this : '' oh well she misses alot of fun , she probably had something else going or maybe her grandma died who knows ''.
I believe girls won't call me back because they have a reason , i also believe girls like me for who i am. I only believe they don't like me is when they're saying FUCKOFF - if they didn't say fuckoff i assume they they like me anyway.

assuming someone not liking you is an idea formed in your own head , she thinks that this guy thinks ''im not worth it'' - she agrees with the idea '' im not worth it''.
do you want a chick this insecure ? Do you want a girlfriend who goes ballistic everytime you couldn't call her ?. She wants to be put on a pedestal....
she's DLVed

anway drop the cold acting and tell her you had something going , if she asks what just tell her you don't want to talk about it - private stuff.

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Ok Lode here you go..

I just got into a LDR not too long ago but I feel like the progress is slowing down, or coming to a halt altogether. A lot of progress was made in the first two months or so (obviously) but now it seems to be slowing down. Maybe its just normal but I would like to see your take on it.
gradually things build up ,when you have a LDR you can't see eachother much - maybe 1 time in a week or maybe less.
The lack of time you invest in the relationship will prevent it from reaching a higher plateau - what you're saying is the reason why many people break their LDR relationships.

It really depends on how you perceive the degradation, what gives you this idea of it slowing down? If a LDR becomes a serious relationship too soon it will demand more time/energy investment and when that's not happening you will often feel like it's slowing down. Also realize she could have a different viewpoint and opinion about it.

1. What is slowing it down ?
2. What do you want to get out of this relationship ? what do you expect ?
3. Do you experience the LDR in the moment or are you thinking alot about its future?

What most guys do is when they get into gaming is that they learn all methods, theory, seminars. However they don't go out enough - they don't practice in real life thus not getting the right reference experiences. Same goes with relationships after - 2 months there is often a increase of investment , if not you can already sense something is wrong. If you got a ''relationship'' but the time your spending is as much as lets say '' dating a girl'' , do you got a relationship like a REAL relationship or a social alliance with a girl ?

what is your reality and what are the facts in real life ? what is the relationship between these two ? example : Do you regard it as a solid loving relationship but in real life it's more like dating ? is something not getting confirmed ?
Again: what gives you the idea about this relationship slowing down?

also realize you can't have a LDR for lets say a few years, there comes a point where you have to invest and jump in.

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well ... really can't answer this one
taking a break is actually a good idea , in most cases the best thing you can do.
Also doing things like going out with friends and doing things for school is a good idea. You also realize what is up with al this so i don't need to adress any issues it seems.

insight from past experiences... ok... you already said you don't know what she will do after this break so it's stupid to assume anything negative. However you feel bit uncomfortable about the whole break things since it's new for you so.

From experience.. A break is the best thing you can do , most people end relationships because they don't give eachother the space that they need. The majority of relationships are saved by a break ... with majority i mean a very large percentage. A break won't solve issues if you're not getting certain issues handled - if you don't like certain parts of your behaviour you should change it and now is the time to do so.

i have standard rules when i get back to a woman i don't judge and im open to everything - total acceptance -. after a break i also do the 2 weeks positivity challenge, meaning you can't have any negative thoughts about your partner or relationship for 2 weeks. If you get back together after a break and you keep adressing negative things you're done....
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talk
don't judge
total acceptance
get the major issues solved , talk about minor issues later maybe after a month or so.
2 weeks of positivity

simpe shit... most guys are so afraid they land into a break ... im like: ahhhhhh a break cool now i can learn something - get some free time to do the things i want. a break isn't a negative thing unless you've abused your girlfriend several times.

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I decided she wasn't the girl i'm looking for. We had different expectations for the relationship i suppose, and while she was, as you said, more "living in the moment," i was looking toward the future and realizing that it was truly not going anywhere. When I say long distance in the situation i mean maybe once a month. Awful I realize, but at this point I cut it off last night. Unfortunately she really didn't take it well at all, and asked me how I could possibly know how it would turn out if it didn't try. I think that the two of us are two entirely different people. While it may not necessarily be a bad thing, we also had different "goals" I suppose, different things we wanted from the relationship. She's a tad immature for her age, and I realize now that what i'm looking for is someone more like myself in that sense, who can discuss what they think about a situation. She kept saying things like "I can't deal with this right now" and "I don't know what to tell you," and I can understand that in some situations, but obviously in a LDR I feel communication is important and because she was unable to be comfortable enough to open up in that way, it was going nowhere.


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momosimo .. case closed .. good stuff man !

you guys thank me alot for certain things which i appreciate to a certain degree because it tells me you got the point and learned from it which is cool !
some of you guys asked me if you can do something for me , in this post or in a private message.

you can do something

well i replied on a post ( 3-months-of-opening-200-girls-inner-gam ... highlight= )and i want you guys to learn something from it ... it's about a guy who changed ( which is cool ) and inspirated us with his story. however your journey about improvement and self actualisation never stops because beliefs change. i didn't made my reply too long and tried to give my opinion as short as possible , no need to make a huge post and waste your efficiency.
try to know where you at and what you can improve in life ( in general ). It's not getting things which makes us happy , it's the journey that gives us fullfillment.

When you succeeded your journey and you get what you want, after a while you feel bad because you learn new beliefs which are better and you have to rebuild your whole reality ( reality breakdown feels bad accoding the ego ). on short term it sucks but on long terms it's the best thing ever, don't be afraid to get improvement.

just read it if you decide to, you don't have to reply, hoewever if you see some mistakes in my english grammer il be happy to hear.

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it was such a logically correct decision that i didnt want to make. lol. but either way she confirmed it with her response in itself and she kinda started to beg and thats a huge turn off for me, unless she's making a good point... but either way you can't argue logically with girls, so thanks for the help.


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wat up guys, what would yall say if you were in a ltr and your girl gave out
her number to some guy at a club she was at? Still keeps contact with him at times too


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wat up guys, what would yall say if you were in a ltr and your girl gave out
her number to some guy at a club she was at? Still keeps contact with him at times too
IMO it depends on the girl really.

How long's the relationship going on? Do you think it's going anywhere? There's ways i've found to cut through this kind of bs but it depends.

I'd say off first glance this kind of problem can come from a lack of excitement maybe?


@poet1234

With that kind of girl, lode is definitely right. In terms of my own game, I always assume attraction.

It's similar to swinggcat's prizing method where he more or less reverses the game to make her chase you.

While i'm not saying you can passively wait for a girl to pursue you, I am saying get her attracted and you should have the mind set, as lode said, that by not talking to you, she's the one missing out. She wants to be put up on that pedestal by you.

Think: It's a privilege for a woman to get gamed by me.


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like momosimo said .. it depends where you are with your relationship. depends how long you're together - the degree of emotional investment and so forth.
girls just like attention even from chode guys , i got a friend who is chode but still gets alot of numbers. i think you shouldn't judge to quick.

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hey lode me and my open relationship gf are going to the bahamas for spring break, but she doesnt know im going yet because i planned on surprising her when we both got there..i planned on going up to her the first night at the "white party" and whispering into her ear, hey sexy lemme buy you a drink..good or bad idea to surprise her? she told me a couple times that she was pissed that i wasnt going and how much she wanted me to go..


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like momosimo said .. it depends where you are with your relationship. depends how long you're together - the degree of emotional investment and so forth.
girls just like attention even from chode guys , i got a friend who is chode but still gets alot of numbers. i think you shouldn't judge to quick.
I completely agree with this part. In all honesty, some girls are for you, and some girls aren't. At the same time, you know her more than we do about her natural tendencies.

For some girls this is is normal behavior, as most (all) girls like being on a pedastal. Don't be the one to put her on it and your fine. An especially in a situation like this, time will tell, but in that same line of thought, you can't let women walk all over you. Not saying you are, but it's something that tends to happen when guys let things go too easily. You're in control.


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