Yea, tbh i was a fan of SS before seeing this but am a bit despondent on it now.
Dont take that the wrong way, im sure it works, im just not sure its for me, but i think it could work amazingly in the closing phases
For exampled, the one chick outside the club started talking about how she went to a strip club and was pretty much ON you. If you had steered the convo more cocky funny, playful at that point i think you could well have got laid.

Keep it goin tho dude, look forward to seeing you develop

I memorized a ton of C&F lines and there's rarely ever an opportunity for me to utilize them, but when there is an opportunity, you bet, I sure will use cocky funny too. Remember, in the Best Buy sarge where I used cocky funny and said, "Are you trying to win me over?" When the chick was like guessing my age and told me she thought I was younger??? I reframed it into her giving me a compliment, and then reframed it again into her trying to win me over (which is one of the cocky funny frames).

The only problem I have with cocky funny is that it's not as predictable (at least from my experience trying to use it) as say, challenging her then going into a seduction question...like, in the latter, I KNOW for sure what I'm about to do...there's no question in my mind that this is what we're going to talk about. Whereas, when I try to use cocky funny on the fly, it seems like..I have to rely on her to do or say something with which I have a C&F comeback line prepared.

On the other hand, some Speed Seduction patterns do contain cocky funny (teasing, banter, whatever you want to call it). For example, the Snack Quiz contains a false disqualification when you playfully tease her for guessing the wrong snack on the first try. I'll say something like, "Oh..sorry, I like X better, but that's okay, don't worry, you still have 2 more chances" (frame is set utilizing a tease to mask it--also known as cocky funny).

Speed Seduction 3.0 contains other such games/quizzes which are more playful and fun rather than deep and intense. It's just so happens, with me, I'm the type of person who seems to like the intense patterns better. It's easier for me to do them. Like, Love Systems said in their Routines Manual Volume 2, some guys are better at state-based game (teasing/banter/BT spikes) and some guys are better at intrigue-based game (patterns, cold reads, insight) then, there are some guys who can do both well. I am naturally good at creating intrigue and I'm also going to work on my state-based game as well.

Cool Bro.
I wasnt really talking about David D as i havent listened to much of his stuff. Im a bit cautious of his marketing techniques and not a massive fan.
I just meant being yourself more, and being playful with everything. The girl outside the club was definitely on you, and i think you confused her a little.
Although, im probably right in thinking that at this stage you are just concerned with practising your patterns, which is awesome!

Where are you from in the US?

I'm from South Carolina.

You're right. At this point, all I care about is getting them patterns out there in perfect speed, tempo, and tonality. I'm more into mastering the skill more than anything.

Sarging is SO addicting!! Me and 2 friends go out and day game once a week. One of my friends starting carrying around a hidden mic and I found some hidden spy cams on the Internet that I bought.

We're so diverse..I use Speed Seduction, one uses Mystery Method, and the other one uses Natural Game. To us, this is like a game. Right now, I've got 5 number closes, 1 instant date, 2 bounces. The MM and Natural Game dude each have 1 number close. My Natural Game friend uses banter and teasing and being playful. He's pretty good at it but he has bad approach anxiety. I frequently ask my Natural Game friend for advice on being playful, and he's really good at quick comebacks that are funny and cocky. He told me to watch comedy and maybe that would help me out. What do you think of the idea of watching comedy to get better at teasing/banter/cockyfunny, Cowboy??

My MM friend has no approach anxiety. He uses chick crack-based opinion openers, body rocks, throws in a neg, and he's working on Captain Jack's sexual framing. He's a very logical thinker and thinks of game as a science.

yea i don't have the password either

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clockwork, what is this "imagination game" you speak of?
how do you do it? is it on any tapes?

Its when you ask them, "If you could go anywhere in the world without worrying about time or money, where would you like to go to the most?" Then, you get them to imagine going there with you. It's not specifically called the "Imagination Game", but me and some people on the SS list call it that. This strategy is talked about in the SS 3.0 course.

No I can't see it as well and the responses are really arousing my interest

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I can't see it either.
What is the password, folks?

I think that the patterns were awesome, the fractionation thing was nicely done, but you could improve it a little more. The big thing though, is you tonality and the pauses. You are saying the commands too casually, when you should emphasise them with a slightly different voice and a little pause after it. But I believe you already know that, based on the audio sarge (in which your voice ROCKS!).
You're getting really good, man. And I'm learning a lot from watching your sarges too

You know, I'm from Brazil, and I am having some trouble with SS, since there are several expressions and commands we cannot use due to the language differences. Like the ambiguities, for instance. So I'll have to adapt the techniques to the portuguese language, and so I need al the material I can get. And your sarges are the first SS sarges I ever saw so far. So thanks a lot, I'll keep on looking into your stuff and commenting, while trying some of it too.

Regards.

On that audio sarge, I was totally in state. Why? I don't know. But, I do remember on that day that I felt really good.

If there's one thing that I think I should improve upon is this...get in state before I leave the house! LOL, I get so excited to go out and sarge that I skip any inner game exercises.

nice work clockw0rk

keep posting more stuff like this we love it


i was just wondering why r u wasting the patterns and NLP tricks on the phone getting phase

i mean, to get a phone # you could make it simple, like "you look like an interesting person, I would like to get to know you" and if she hesitates you make it clear that your intention is just to ask her out for a coffee and talk about things.
while doing this u even use a false time constraint which would really help imo

yeah maybe the ratio will decrease, maybe you will get 3 numbers out of 5 tries, but its well worth it considering the minimum effort, which is trowing just one or two lines on a chick.

this way you could save the patters for the coffee table where she is relaxed and focused on you, interested in making a conversation with you, and because you have her full attention your words would have greater impact on her
for example that discovery-channel pattern you did(and you did well imo) could really turn her ON if you would have done it at a coffee table in a relaxing SPAM and after you've built some kind of comfort...so why waste it for the number close, save your war ammunition for later

as for testing the number you could be C&F and as you key in her number into ur phone say "ok let me ring you once so you can have my number too, in case i change my mind about calling you"

Thanks for checking out the vidz

Thanks for checking out the vidz

I really liked the way you put this sarge with the audio and the explaination written.

BTW... did she answer your call later? I got a feeling that she wouldn't answer the call, maybe because I never tried sarging this way.

Thank you for the very helpful videos.

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