So, having read Styles book - The Game - today, yes all of it, and doing some research about online PUA, I setup a new profiles on POF and OKcupid adapting the style of an alpha male.

I followed Sttles outline profile in his doc - 7 Steps Of Online PU from seduction base. Man I made myself out to be a complete "selfish prick" that couldn't give a shit. I have messaged 5 HB8-10's on each, being very direct with small neg/mirror, just to see the response.

Eg - I opened by asking a HB9 where she got the wallpaper from saying it reminded me of a hostel I stayed in when back packing through India (it looked old and shitty), followed by a nice comment about her hair!


Im going to test this for 2 weeks - my aim is to message 50 women on each and see what interest is given.

Any thoughts would be good.



Anyhow, heres the profile from POF:

Title: You dont want to know


No seriously, you really don't want to know me.

Im a complete selfish prick. Do yourself a favor and leave now!

No? ok......


Im 5'11 with an athletic body, I am a Kickboxer, MMA fighter and also play football.
I have mid length dark brown hair, green/blue eyes and usually have some facial hair.
I dress smart/casual, shirts and hats are often in use.


I do and say what I want and could not give a sh*t about what anyone thinks about me.
When I find what I want, I have it. When I know what I want its mine. That includes YOU.

I want a woman who can cope with my huge endowment and sexual energy.
Only apply if you are good looking, energetic and not the jealous type.
Women that are attached and want to make their bloke jealous as f**k - you may also apply.

PS: If I don't message you back - well, you didn't make the cut - there are plenty of gimps on here, go try them.


******** I must give credit to the PUA's whos work I am testing - most of this is taken from others with some of my own original lines - Im not trying to taking credit for it - its just a test of technique *********

Well Slik,,, how did it work for you? I thought it was pretty damn funny.

Keep one thing in mind though,,, eventually you are going to have to meet these chicks, and if you're not a real dick, they are going to smell a rat.

I always make sure what I give them online or on the phone I can deliver. Because in the long run, I could fake being a major asshole for a while. But when I get back to being myself, the party would be over.

The chick would lose interest.

Hey, sorry its been so long;

The results were not too good in all honesty.

The type of girls it was attracting were the goth/hard rock chicks, some of whom were cool but most not really on my radar for a decent HB score.

so out of the 50 mails sent:

14 replies
4 #close
1 f-closed (HB7)

I have came to the conclusion that the women in the UK are of a different breed than the US, maybe its something to do with the culture here?
I think it was just being too much of an asshole for most.


I have since been testing the opposite end of the spectrum, being honest and truthful but maintaining an edge of confident and cocky, with much better results.
I have been opening with an adaption of the excellent mirror-opener posted on here, giving them a big indirect compliment before making them work to fit my frame. I get a much better response rate now and many more #closes. Maybe a bit of cheese is a better option in the UK? Its certainly working for me. Am off on a date tonight with a HB10 - from using this technique )

Honestly.. do you need any kind of game to get a European girl? Can't you just simply walk up and say "How about it?" I've heard stories about how easy all of the UK women are.

Joking aside though:

Girls in the USA for some reason seem to admire that "i'm an asshole and I don't care what anyone thinks of me." attitude over UK girls. For the most part, if you try a nice honest approach in the USA, you'll mostly get some thank yous and put on the dreadful "BFF LIST".

Why? Who knows, they don't even know.

Haha, I wish they were that easy.

Saying that, the easiest over here are the South African's.


Im looking forward to my visit to the New York in September, If what I hear is right all I have to to is say Hi in my British accent

My online profile used to read:

"I'm a dick and I drink too much. I like to have laughs at others' expense, possibly and probably at yours, should you for some reason decide to meet me. I'm swearing off nice girls. Run while you still can. You've been warned."

I used to get a TON of responses on that one. Girls would say things like, "oh my god! you're so funny! And there is NOO way you're a dick! I've dated enough dickheads to know that they NEVER tell you upfront that that's how they are!"

Hmmm....I may have to revert to that style now that I think about it...

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Interesting stuff - I do think different cultures need different approaches - I was thinking of trying out one of the jokey profiles used in Copy Bang Paste (one is pretending you're a midget and the other pretending you used to be a porn star) I'm in Switzerland and I'm trying a bit of a mix of both - God knows how women will respond - probably not at all knowing this place! Most women seem to have had a humour bypass

I agree about different cultures requiring different approaches.

I have now adopted a more half way house, some cocky and funny comments, some sincere, and a little bit of DVH.

I keep updating it dependent on feedback I get, and yes I do ask for it if things dont really go too great, I find its a good close to a convo. when I have no intentions of going further.


Am getting some good comments about it now so it must be working.


I would love to know how your experiment works. I must get a copy of the ebook too, have heard some cool things about it.

Steve,

the e-book is actually called Copy Paste and Bang - the basic ideas are:-

make your profile funny but honest - keep it brief
select who you write to carefully - sort of pre-screening so you get sexual girls
be prepared for lots of rejection
move on if they are not interested
be humurous at nearly every stage
get their number quick so it moves offline asap
tell rather than ask them to meet

Fairly standard stuff and generally it's a funny read - the guy has a way with words. here's a sample of something you can use as a profile - he suggests making up your own funny ones.

"Dear Santa,
I think you need new glasses. I asked you for the woman of my DREAMS, not the George Foreman grilling MACHINE. I know that a woman loves a man that can cook but you forgot the woman!
Oh yeah! Will you come back and get the reindeer? They are leaving me presents of their own all over the lawn."

and an example of a first email...

"Hey Smiley!
I was checking out this POF site and found your profile. Being a porn star really isn’t all that it is cracked-up to be. The pressure really gets to me at times, and I’m sure you can understand. Can you imagine people yelling at you while you are having sex? Talk about distracting! I’m hoping in time that you’ll see past my 10”, and see me for my inner beauty as well. It’s true that many of us porn stars aren’t too bright, but I made it through the 10th grade, and I think I’m able to communicate Goodly.

OK Seriously though, I'm single, educated, 36 years old, 5'11 and 195lbs. For the last 4 years I’ve worked as a land planner for a local engineering firm. I’m fit, and play hard as I work hard. I enjoy spending time on the road on my Harley and traveling. I have a photo (or ten) to send you if you would like! When I'm not beating up the elderly and stealing their money I'm out with friends having fun. If you are interested in perhaps chatting let me know. I hope to hear from you soon and thanks for your time.
Smiles,
Beaver
PS My sister is a Medical Assistant up in New York, too"

Here's a link to a download - worth checking out

http://rapidshare.com/files/350003681/C ... d_Bang.pdf

To be honest I think that I need to test the "midget porn star" funny profile on POF as a test (I'll adjust my area/location to England)- I live in Switzerland and the 'pool' of decent looking women online is severely restricted to say the least. So far in the land of cuckoo clocks NO ONE has commented on my profile text. I better try POF.

Oh one last thing - i was watching a video with my young daughter and thought a line used in a film could be fun to try as a headline or subject line - "50% warrior 50% lover 100%...chihuahua!" It may need adjusting. I'll try that too

I too tested out an online website but got much better results than the OP. I have about a 90% reply rate and from that I open up the option to meet about 60% of them. I've dated a couple, made it to their bedrooms, etc.

The profile I've got is honest, and relatively serious except I leave some little spots for humor. I'll write maybe 2 sections seriously and the next one will have something really random like a quote from the Fresh Prince opening. I've gotten lots of comments on it so I'm assuming everything is going well.

As for the messages themselves, I usually say something sarcastic about their profile, balance it out a bit and ask them something to show their personality. It could be something serious to something silly, but I have an extremely high response rate and everything has been positive except for one... which was only a test message to see how far I could push the sarcasm.

If you decide to use negs online, do not go too far. Most women have a hard time detecting when something is sarcastic or said jokingly in that idiom, so make sure you balance things a bit.

Good luck!

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Skypirate, I would use that line but add a picture of a chihuahua up too.


I think im gonna get Photoshop on the go and create some funny picts, such as sticking my head on a lego figure!

Steve,

I tried it on POF and they pulled my main photo (which was a chihuahua) with no warning or explanation but they left the text!

With Swissfriends the site I typically use I have this as my text description

"Can you keep a secret?

Don't tell anyone but I used to work in the adult entertainment industry. It's a hard business especially for a mini-sized person like myself - the politically correct term is 'small person' Well there's one thing that couldn't be small in my line of work. No one can understand the stress involved and stamina required - sometimes it would take all my energy just to get onto a bed! However those days are gone and the
mindless hedonism is a thing of the past - I want to settle down and find an attractive, intelligent and well built woman, perhaps I can hide under her chest when it's raining or for shade. If you fit the bill then drop me a line"

I toned it down a lot to get it through - but no one I've contacted has commented on the profile - don't they read them?

Steve


"PS: If I don't message you back - well, you didn't make the cut - there are plenty of gimps on here, go try them. "

I love that line

I have put up a few picts onto my POF profile as of yesterday, not as the main image so hopefully they will last longer.

I found a picture of some Lego Porn (its so obvious that some people dont even make the AFC qualification - CFC's? completely frustrated chumps! ) and photoshop'ed my head onto to it. Looks quite funny as the man, me is doing a "female" lego bird from behind up against a palm tree! I also mentioned in the profile that I dont like coconuts due to being hit on the head by one falling from a tree!

Have had 4 women message me today and they all mentioned it, it enabling me to escalate sexually quite quickly without worrying that i come across as a perv.

Hopefully it will last....

hahaha lego porn - well it seems to work and that's the most important thing!

It maybe worth trying using stills from the Team America puppet sex scene - anything different