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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:28 pm 
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So to start things off lately I have been constantly thinking about this girl and I really like her. Earlier yesterday I had some feeling that I would run into her that night, low and behold I ran into her at the bar (fate maybe haha). Anyways I was on the dancefloor with a bunch of people and her and some friends came and started dancing around us, in a circle kind of. This girl went right beside me and I briefly talked to her and her friend grabbed her away.
Very shortly after this the same friend started pushing her towards me but she kept moving back towards her friend (Probably embarassed a little cause it seemed a little awkward for both of us). They both left to get drinks as did we but at different bar counter. I then frequently danced with random girls for the rest of the night, and this girl and her friend were constantly dancing in the distance, and she kept looking back at me.
Now I hope to say that she is at least somewhat into me, however I am into her but I feel like I didn't show it at all. I always tend to try to make girls I like jelous of me but I never find the point to stop. I guess my main question is:
Do you think this will have positive or negative impact on her view of me and how in any ways can i show more interest in her w/o looking desperate.
Like I really wanted to dance with her the whole night but it just felt awkward when her friend was trying to push her into me.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 10:44 am 
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Jealousy can work but you can't go too far with it. Yeah maybe dance with another girls but keep the dancing non sexual, make it playful and fun. Leave after one song and go grab a drink. Or even better yet go talk to your target. If you were just dancing with a girl and she knows it then little jealousy has been built and it could be a form of social proof. Also at this point you don't seem desperate.

What I would have done is to lead her and her friends away to a table or corner of the bar and try to win over her friends if you feel that is a problem.

The target isn't gonna go dance up on you on her own no matter how bad she wants to (unless she's shit faced). This is because socially, it isn't her job. She would feel out of place if she did. I go to a lot of dance parties and that's not something girls do (high caliber girls that is). If a target's friend is pushing her towards you but isn't moving cuz she feels embarrassed then walk up to her and grab her hand and pull her into dance. Girls talk amongst themselves. If a girl is really into a guy then chances are her friends will facilitate the progression of the relationship more than they will impede it (but this doesn't mean they won't cockblock you at the end of the night). If her friend is pushing her to dance with you then I would bet she has conveyed to her friend that she wants to (and looking at you while you were dancing with other girls, yeah she obviously wants to). That being said, you still want to win over her friends.

If you just ended up dancing with other girls all night and never tried to reconnect with her than yes this is definitely a setback. But I think you can still salvage the situation. Next time you are out at the bars with her spend the majority of your time with her, dance with her, talk to her etc etc. You've already built jealousy and social proof with all the dancing you did with other girls.


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I am so pissed with myself now I just need to vent it out on here.

So last night pretty much the same thing happened last night at the bar.
I was talking to a random girl at the bar and the same thing happened with the girl I like that I mentioned above. Her friend pushed her into me not once but TWICE at different times and she would move back towards her friend embarasssed. I did absolutely nothing as this random girl was talking to me I was just looking at this girl I like trying to make eye contact but nothing. I wanted to go over and talk to her but I just froze and couldn't do it, which is weird because I have talked to her many times before and am usually perfectly comfortable doing it.

I don't know how many signs this girl is going to give before she gives up on me, granted she hasn't after last night. I just need ideas to make a move on her and prevent this dhit from happening everytime I see her.


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I have the same exact problem.. I get drunk and then play too hard to get and then it just bites me in the ass in the end of the night.. If you didn't feel like dancing with her at the time, you could've just chilled with her and her friend and talked about stuff sometime after dancing.. like taht she would've gotten the hint that your still into her.. i mean if you dont' feel like dancing, then don't... but still you need to build some sort of connection some how..


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BTW.. the reason poeple usually play hard to get like that is because they use it as a defense mechanism.. you think that if you go and work that girl you'll fuck up, and you dont want to face disappointment.. so its nothing but an inner game issue... just don't expect anything from her and game her like you game other girls. thats all i can tell you..


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But dude, the answers so obvious. Surely, the next time she looks at you, you just go straight up to her and chat? She likes you already! Fuck jealousy, thats a way of getting attraction, what the point when you've already got it?
Remember aswell the whole oneitis shit that these guys go on about, its a great point- your worrying so much about someone who, from what I've been told, you know very little about, women are all the same.
If you like her, take her! If she looks at you, look straight back without looking away, if she holds- which if she likes you she will-, smile, she smiles back, go up to her, IGNORE her friends TAKE her by the arm up to the bar or a place you can talk.
And a ps. make sure you pull correctly, take your time, focus on being natural if you just kiss quickly you'll find both of you might lose interest, i found this out last thursday.
But then again i am a bit of a newbie myself, but thats the best advice i think of mate, hope you don't worry too much about this bastard game! lol


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 5:10 pm 
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I feel like I just overthink things way too much and let my mind get the best of me. Like I felt that the opportunity will just come up to me and it pretty much did in this case, but I never realize it in the moment occurs, then looking back I wish I had done something else.

Also I keep feeling that her liking me is a "too good to be true" situation. Like this girl is unreal and I never would have pictured her to be interested in me cause I initially assumed she was out of my league when I first met her. I know this is a terrible way to think of this situation but I can't help it my mind just wanders with thoughts about it.


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If you like her, take her! If she looks at you, look straight back without looking away, if she holds- which if she likes you she will-, smile, she smiles back, go up to her, IGNORE her friends TAKE her by the arm up to the bar or a place you can talk.

Lets take a little step back and think about that. Girls of beauty rarely go to bars or clubs alone, the girl his target was with was obviously a friend. So yes, lets walk up.. grab the target and run away.. hopefully the friend won't notice. I think you've misunderstood the concept of "pick-up" we don't literally mean pick the girl up and run :P but jokes aside. This approach will not work he will need a routine that will involve both girls. The target is not going to leave her friend for someone she has just met.

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AFCCoffee- ofcourse not, maybe i'm getting my wires crossed, i thought diablo knew this women already? They've met before? And bar i meant in the club lol, although diablo if you did pick her up and run out, film it, get it online.
Yeah so depends on the situation i guess, as for your low self esteem, theres so much stuff about this its unbelievable. This websites packed with stuff. The best for me is the legend of David X, check him out on youtube.
In my opinion, you may be overthinking this because you have a crush on her, you think about her when shes not there, classic afc. Search for the answer.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 11:12 pm 
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AFCCoffee- ofcourse not, maybe i'm getting my wires crossed, i thought diablo knew this women already? They've met before? And bar i meant in the club lol, although diablo if you did pick her up and run out, film it, get it online.
Yeah so depends on the situation i guess, as for your low self esteem, theres so much stuff about this its unbelievable. This websites packed with stuff. The best for me is the legend of David X, check him out on youtube.
In my opinion, you may be overthinking this because you have a crush on her, you think about her when shes not there, classic afc. Search for the answer.

I have ran into her enough times that I don't think she would be creeped out by me doing that. I also know her friend somewhat but I am not very fond of her. This is why I am kicking myself for not going to talk to them that night.

I have read alot about self-esteem and honest I don't feel like I have low-self esteem, its definitly not as high as I would like though. If it was any other girl I would have probably done it but just something inside of me doesn't want to screw this up. I even approached this girl way back in september at a party and thats how we met, however I asked for her number and she didn't give it. I only ran into her about once a month and we would talk for a couple of minutes thats all I have to do something but so far i'm doing nothing which has got me well nothing. I will probably be seeing her this weekend at the bar because she has been there every week that I have gone any tips to showing interest?

Also I can't recall where I heard this and if it's even true for that matter but apparently this girl is really stand-offish when it comes to hooking up with guys. I have seen her turn down TONS of guys who asked her to dance too. If this is true what can I do to make her more comfortable that I can stat escalating


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Quick update on the situation

I was at the bar on saturday night and went up to the bar table to grab a drink. While waiting to be served I see this girl I like talking to two guys, whom I'm pretty sure she knew before, but that is besides the point. She then brings these two guys with her and starts talking to them right beside me at the bar, and then she started hugging them and crap saying they were the best ever. I don't know for sure if she was trying to make me jealous or even if she noticed I was there but I did notice that when I turned around to look she was hugging them and was looking at me. Once the eye contact was there she just looked away really fast, and then I left with my drink.

I feel like I played it kind of cool about it by not pretending that I cared I only looked back at her once when we made eye contact, it didn't really bother me much at the time either its just I am wondering if I should have done something else in this situation?

Also are things just gonna get worse from here? What should I do when I see her again?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:12 pm 
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Cool to hear from you again mate.
Dude, did you get the girl? Did you even talk to her? NO. Listen, being an afc myself but recovering, i've went through so much shit like this. Where you fancy this girl, and shes giving you eye contact and you think she likes you, and you begin to lust after her, and not wanting to talk, in case you ruin it. Play around bullshit!!! Mate two things you need to ask yourself, one, how well do i even know this girl? two, am i kind of exagerating how 'perfect' this girl is? Because you are! You'll find most men in this position are there because their insecure, not becuase the girls special.
Get some more experience with women in the week, then literally only base what you think she feels by talking to her, what she says or does with you, thats your way out.


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