lol buz thats kinda corny altho its better than what i said your right

along those lines what is your guys opionion on the family status thing this girl im into

tried to set me as her son and then i said no and set her as my daughter

then we both agreed that she would be my puppy and ill call her lucy lol

but what is your opionions on the relationship status and family statis things ?

Playful, I like it. I should probably start doing the same to be honest but you know you're texting conversation? Was that an actual conversation you had with someone or is it just an idea on how you would do the conversation? If the target was texting me with one worded responses I would concentrate on getting her to invest more.. probably with a female friendly conversation. Though your method does sound good and I am reluctant to try it

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Hey dude, i havent read all the reply posts so i'm not sure if this was mentioned. Have you considered restructuring your style of gaining info or running convo

For example - closed questions vs open questions

Closed questions will get you an simple answer- yes, no, maybe, idk etc etc
Open questions will get the long answer - usually getting the respondent to think and reflect thus investing into the conversation. This will also give feedback on opinions and feelings opening the door to a large variety of topics.

I find that when i ask someone an open question, their reply opens the doors to either go more into detail in a particular subject or switch it up completely. This way you are not simply working with a "yes" or "no", you actually end up getting some feedback, something that you can work with.

Heres a wild example.
Closed - Tell me, do you like having sex on the beach?
Open - Tell me, what is it about having sex on the beach that makes it so god damn awesome?

Now i rate they can be used effectively together aswell by starting with a closed Q then following up with the Open Q

eg.
You: do you believe in astrology?
Her: Eek, kinda
You: Ok clearly theres a part of you that does and a part of you that doesn't, so tell me about the part that does... (keeping it positive at the same time, ie: good emotions)

Well, thats my take on it

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@ Dv yes i usually try and choose the wording most propper to get the best response

but as i said this girl is really kinda dim i dont know if i should even try game on her at all other than negs and dhv

i really have trouble with dumb girls that are like stuck up also you havent read all the post but i said i have allot of trouble with talking online or text i end up offending them

or something lmao

if you or anyone else have any advice for handling less intelagant high school girls i would be MORE than happy to hear it

but aside from that i have a problem that if someone online starts iming me they will start the conversation

and somehow i ended up being the person asking all the questions is this bad or no

like how do i make them keep being the instigator

Yeah was just an idea of where to go (roleplay wise) with the conversation from the original post. But that's how i would have changed the conversation into a roleplay scenario. I would expect the target to invest more in the story (i gave one-worded answers for her for quickness) and when it runs dry or you're bored you can easily cut it and move on to something else.

To be honest i probably wouldn't have done it with astrology because there better ways to go with that, it can lead on horoscopes, spiritualality, her overall beliefs and maybe lead on to palm reading which you might mention when setting up a day 2.

But one i use all the time is husband and wife roleplay, she says shes making dinner. i'll say something like Save some for me. Roleplay started, "i'm working late at the office tonight, so keep it in the fridge for me and don't wait up " and in roleplay you are safe, you can now "act the AFC" "i'll make it up you with a romantic dinner, it's nice to treat the wife every now and then"

I have a day 2 set-up for next weekend, and i used roleplay with her alot online and text. pretend dates, trips around the world, spending the night in a supermarket, making her fly my private jet. the more random the better.

i will try to find an actual conversation, or save one next time i talk to a girl online.

I normally do this online:

Fluff talk - no longer than 5 minutes
Start a roleplay - as long as its fun it can go for a while
Cut the roleplay
Fluff talk - As long as i like until it gets boring
maybe play a game or two (Styles question game is awesome online and even better over text)
i might introduce points (credit to Style) at some stage. i might give her 3 points and she'll ask what they're for, i'll say at 10 you can have my phone number (or depending how early it is just say "at 10 you win a prize") if she says something like, can't i just ask for it? i'll say "i don't just give it away, you lost a point for that "

then after that, mix and match those things up when it feels right to do so.

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this is cool stuff. so when i msg a girl - i just start out with something like the horoscope one?

how do i incorporate roelplay seamlessly into the text convo?

@ tool fan i would not use the horoscope one unless you already know shes into it

i happend to be asked about that stuff allot in the 2 days aluding to the convo and took a shot

its not good lol it came out completly unintresting atleast the way i did it

but i have done role play easier if your kinda friendly with a girl you could set her as you wife or daughter or something on facebook then next you see her you can be like hey wifey or something and it really moves things along

i also told these girls they sit like puppys so i said they are my puppys and gave them silly dog names and i call them that sometimes

hmmm, lucky me. i used that on a close female friend and she said it wasnt too good. so i didnt use it. guess u are right.

anyway i love roleplay. its so fun! and it helps when doing serious business with guys, seriously, pua helps a lot in life!

thx anyway.

OP, you really gotta chill when people are criticizing. You just flipped out for no good reason.... if someone tells you its shit, then that's what they think. Instead of getting pissed off why don't you think about it more? Use that energy for improvement instead of bitching.

To be honest, it was a plain conversation. I blame her for a lot of that (lack of personality), but at the same time, you could have been more interesting. Someone said something about closed vs open questions. The questions you asked were all closed and makes it easy for her to remain unengaged. Since its online, take a minute to think thru an interesting topic first and then IM her. Ask her a question that she will have to think about, or better, something you know she wants to talk about. If she doesn't respond with anything interesting, despite a pretty good question, try something else, but I wouldn't go very far with it. I would probably neg by saying something about her being boring and leave the conversation...... or skip negging, and just leave the conversation. But, by hanging around and persisting, you are DLVing. It looks desperate.

Also, keep in mind you are online at 4am. By persisting at this hour it looks like you are trying very hard.

Last comment - online conversation blows. Shit gets interpreted the wrong way all the time and you lack the ability to appear as interesting as you could in real life.

donk i agree with allot of what you said however i didnt flip out because he critisized me

That is what i was asking for

all he did was insult me tell me what i allready know i did wrong and call me afc

i realize now that talking to a girl you dont usualy talk to online for the first time is never a good idea unless your a mpua or something

PS i fucking hate online game if the girl doesnt imeadieatly have a good enargy like me my convos go no where even in the online game section THERES NO GOOD OPPENERS

and NO I REPEAT NOOOOO GOOD ROUTINES which i find infurieating because nearly half our lives are spent on facebook

Yeah, I definitely agree about there being no good online routines. Plain and simple, it's frustrated the hell out of me plenty of times . And that makes it even more of a bitch since most girls in High School will practically spend their lives on Facebook!!

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i think the only good facebook game is commenting on the pic something funny

then like the relationship status and maby games if your board other than that im dry

i dont like doing online game much, but i started trying it again recently. this time it was an old friend who started the convo. i did everything as i would in real life - dhv, push pull, neg (subtle one because shes only 15) etc and turned out we had a great time. not interested one bit in her tho - just needed some practice.

the good things about online game:

-Google is your friend. anything you need, tips, articles, stories, gimmicks, routines, fuck just about anything you need is at your disposal. you can take forever to reply - she will love it.

-much more flexible than text game

-if you do it well, your job of getting her as a gf/k-close/f-close is nearly half done. and you did it all behind a computer screen and a keyboard! all you need to do is to meet up with her, with all the info you need in your head, and game the shit outta her.

i do agree with the posts here, shit gets interpreted the wrong way in text and online game, which is why i dont like to use it often.

for fb game (i assume you are using chat here), you can probably start with a comment or so on her status, photo etc etc. make it interesting (puas should be experts at standing out lol), but there is the chance she wont reply, some girls are just more distant from strangers on fb (strange, isnt it? the whole idea of fb was to "connect with other people in your life"). then if its good, chat her up or something.

i get cha i know what you mean if the girl is feeling me in the beggining i can do

pretty well but if its a girl you only kinda know like cocky funny in the halls or

something and you try and game her online its doomed unless you got some

oppening ability or your mad good looking lol

but anyway

i am remembering past success and i think the most important thing you said is treat it like real life false time constraint qualify her ext

the only difference is if your not kinda friends
you have to have an exuse to talk to her even if its made up