Hi

Just wondering, has anybody here really gone from not being able to talk to women, or having no puck with them, etc to actually being good with them? E.g. like the guys on The Pick UP Artist on VH1?

Who here has made such a transformation? and how did you do it?

I can say that I have made an amazing transformation. I was terrible with girls and all of that has changed.

The only thing that helps is practice.

It's something I'd like to do in the near future. Practice makes perfect obviously. I think what helps me sometimes is just by watching the PUA (Mystery's series) and assessing how the guys were, what they are now and how they went about things, sure you don't get a full on approach, but you get enough to take bits from and if they can do it, so can anyone else!

I began studying game back in July and it has been an up and down experience so far. I wasn’t doing too bad before, been laid a bunch of times and have had a few serious relationships but I always felt like I “got lucky” when I had success.

First few months I had a huge spike in what I would consider success at the time. Next few months seemed like I actually got worse. Right around the holiday season my inner game and self confidence was through the roof and I had a ton of success. Now I can say that I have definitely taken a downward slide. Not sure if it was because I got lazy and complacent and would barley approach. My inner game and confidence are pretty low right now due to hating my job and my ex girlfriend head fucking me recently. I am working on hitting the gym and building my inner game back up and hope to see some killer results in time for summer.

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~Carmo~

I went from being the biggest pussy ever. My first girlfriend dumped me and I talked to her every night on the phone through 7 more relationships that she had while she used me as an orbiter because I thought that I could use logic to win her back over. I slowly got better but got rejected by at least 40 more girlfriends.

Then I took responsibility for my own life. I started reading about women to understand what men can't seem to get and that is how emotion can bypass logic in such a way.

I think the best thing to do is make mistakes although that causes the most pain. If you can deal with your own pain and understand yourself you can make mistakes and not have them devastate your life.

The second most important thing is inner game, like if you truly love yourself all the way to the core and just act congruent the entire time you don't need routines or techniques. Women want strength in the form of congruence. You can destroy neediness if you validate yourself and fulfill every need you have just from yourself. Then you are free to just love other people and love yourself instead of needing anything from anyone.

"Pick up" like going to bars and clubs and number closing or fuck closing is just the middle to me. The end is when you can fulfill yourself and get what you really want. Be it multiple partners, one committed relationship, marriage, or maybe you just like to have one night stands.

I think it's just about finding someone you connect really well with that has values that you respect and then being able to attract her. Pick Up ultimately is about having the ability to choose who you want and knowing you can attract her and get what you want.

I wouldn't say I'm a PUA. However I did reach my goal of becoming confident with women, and as a result I was able to sleep with more woman and get into relationships with the women I wanted.

I went from no game to confident, cocky, funny, and much higher self-esteem. I think it only gets better the more you work toward becoming a "PUA".

I use to be so pathetic that I was a total "nice guy" or a "puppy dog" and always afraid of women. The only girl I ever had sex with was from 4 years ago. ONE girl. Only ONE. After I started to just be more confident etc my number is up to 3 (lol, not much at all, but hey it's a big improvement considering the 2 added on are within the past 6 months! and soon to add 2 more onto that I'm hoping..)


Get'cha Game on!

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-- Jay --

totally man, and although i got my game pretty tight when i was younger than most, in my teens i was terrible with girls. and for no good reason. I was good at sports, popular, in a band, tall and relatively good looking, yet still i could never lock.

Then i started really watching what my friends that had the girls were doing, and just imitated it exactly. Then after discovering the community i improved on what i already knew and brought more of my own personality into my game.

It's gotten to such a level now that I never even have and opener in my head when I walk up to a girl, I know what kinds of questions and statements work so I just let it flow naturally.

I'm currently dating a really cute bi girl and living in her place (rent free...extra bonus) and having a few one night stands a week.

Trust me, you can become a PUA if you put in the time and effort and train yourself to get over your fear. Peace.

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Even the most naturally gifted can learn to become better.

I can't say that I'm completely a PUA yet... but my confidence and social awareness has skyrocketed. I enjoy going into sets no matter what, because ever since my first set I've seen rejection as funny, and closing as cool. Either way it ends up is beneficial, and I also love being put on the spot and learning what I have done wrong.

Where was I before all this? Reeling hard from a break up.

I was sad, trying to figure out why things went wrong (which I did, eventually). There are still reminders of this relationship, but I'm able to use the emotions they stir up as fuel for trying to perfect my game.

In the end, if I had to use a number to describe where I'm at right now, where 1 is your AFC and PUA is 10, I'd probably give myself a 7. I need to become more natural with the whole thing, but I've been making quite a bit of headway.

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