Allright,

I have no idea what to do with this waitress ... Let me explain ... She stands out from the rest of the pack because shes the only one that comes over and actually talks to me whenever I visit this bar/restaurant (and not only for my tip or anything cuz she doesnt serve me at all) ... whenever shes does come and talk to me shes really giving me alot of IOI's .. like touching my arm ... rubbing my back .. or giving me a slap on the arm when I say something Cocky & Funny ... my approach to this so far has been "laid-back let her chase me" type, with a little Push & Pull Method when we conversate, and a more Natural Method than anything else (no routines or anything).

Ill describe a little about her ... shes definately an HB9 or HB10 in my opinion ... Petite, Great smile and nice silky Brunette hair ... she doesnt come across to me as a girl who is "sexually liberated" ... shes kinda like the girl next door ... if anything her girl type would be defined as "The Hopeful Romantic" ... seems to me shes waiting for the "Right Guy" and has this "I'll date you to fix/improve you" mentallity (picking up on that just from the intresting conversations I've had with her) ...

I have no problem in that I know shes intrested in me ... my problem is how can I put this "in the bag" ... How can I push this into the next level??? cuz I really have a frame of her in my mind right now; its that shes "Girlfriend-long-term realationship" Material to me and Ive decided I want to persue this aggressively But I dont know how to proceed cuz Ive never been in this situation before...

Advice and confidence boost will be much appriciated!

Thanks for reading.

BUMP .... lol guys I need major advice and confidence builders

Cool down buddy, she's a waitress so of course she is flirty. Don't think too far ahead, "long-term relationship", sounds bad if you haven't even gone on a date yet, avoid oneitis at this point.

The next step should be obvious, casually ask her out to get a cup of coffee/whatever works.

look up how to tackle 'hired guns' techniques, because thats the scenario you're in.

LOL . . . can't you guys ever drop the text book protocol and just SEE the situation as it is?

I don't care how flirty a waitress is . . . a waitress DOES NOT TOUCH a customer. Rubbing your back? Are you serious? What the hell are you waiting for? Cupid to shoot his arrow in your heart?

The reason why you feel all these "LTR emotions" is because she set you up perfectly. She's absolutely, totally flirting with you but STOPPING at the SLUT LINE because she wants a long term relationships with you. You have these dreamy "girl next door" thoughts of her because that is exactly what she projected to you. Who knows? Maybe she gets dolled up on weekends and goes on a fuck hunt. To you however, she wants to be the "girl next door". Nice . . .

Think up a fun event and just take her out. She is ALREADY in the bag . . .

Thanks guys for the reply ... I've hit on the "Hired Guns" articles on here ... but I don't think they are the kind of material id use on her ... ill definitely ask for her facebook .... im here tonight at the bar/restaurant and ill keep gaming her ... being Cocky & Funny ... ill tell you guys how it goes after I number close. Thanks for the confidence boost ... really needed it!

I'm so serious ... she was rubbing my back after I told her I hurt it from a work related injury ... and I was implying she should "Ya Christina you have to rub my back ... I hurt it pretty bad and I need a nice girl to make it all better" she ate it up and rubbed my back like hardcore .... well she really seems like "The girl next door" around me ... so much that im 100 percent certain shes no playerette of any kind ... I've already made a DHV story of how a good friend I was when a girl I knew went through a break up ... then I went into story mode ... telling her how I would treat her rite ... all the "I m a be great bf" material ... and she started giving me alt of IOI's after that ... anyways I facebook close with her so we'll see how it goes!

Thanks guys for takinng the time to read my post.

i thnk fb close is okay, but also at the same time ask after that for her phone, like you need it to invite her to a local community event/outing with your friends. then hopefully from there you can build up mutual kino, start sexualizing the conversations and eventually kiss close.

lol its 2:40 in the morning ... Anyways...

ya the reason I went for a Facebook close is because I think girls dont find that too forward compared to a phone number (ill still ask for it later) ...

I'll tell you guys how my night went so you can either critique it or learn from it(wont go into great detail because I dont remember much of what we talked about)

I was there around 7:00 to watch a hockey game ... and I knew she was working and just getting off around that time from another co-worker im good friends with ... She saw me and she really gave me a flashy smile (I know I think im in love haha) and headed over and sat beside me at the bar ... By then I stopped drinking (just to show her I can talk to her without being influenced ... even though I kinda was lol) and ordered water ... I didnt buy her a drink because it goes against my rule for buying drinks "I dont buy drinks for girls period" (guys dont fall for this and buy women a drink so she can just talk to you) ... Anyways I again went into building up the rapport I have with her ... and just kept building it up some more ... I went into playful banter with her and asked opinions about anything and build conversation from there ... while I was doing this I started to use some of Vin Dicarlo's Escalation Ladder *Kino Trick* and she was really receptive to them ... even returning some IOI's in return ... From here on out it was all Cocky & Funny-type stuff ... then when the right moment came (you'll know it ) I used something I created myself and wanted to try out just for the fun of it (I dunno if someone else made it up b4 me ... plz correct me if its true) ... I gave her this sly smile and kinda looking down on her lips than back up to her eyes ... I leaned in slowly (to gauge if shes receptive ... if she isnt she will lean back to keep distance ... remember that ) and just stopped so close to her face with my head tilted ... so close she could feel the breath coming from my lips ... just when I noticed shes closing her eyes indicating that she wanted to be kissed (thats all I wanted) ... I pulled back and gave her this cheeky grin ... to say she was dissappointed was an understatement ... I could read it on her face so clear haha lol ... but she never said anything about it (which I was glad cuz I wouldnt know how to handle that at all) and we just continued talking like nothing happined ... Thats when I went in with my own Facebook Close ... she was so happy for me to ask that I couldnt believe what happined next ... she asked me what I was doing next week .. I told her I might be busy ... but she plowed ahead and told me about a friends birthday party happining and wanted to know if I wanted to go with her??? so she calls her friend and asks if she could bring a friend which she agreed to happily (Thank Gawd) ... by then I was in Cloud 9 and the rest is history!


Thanks guys for reading, the advice, and brotherhood support! Cheers!

If you guys are intrested heres a link to Vin Dicarlo's Escalation Ladder:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/16768511/Vin- ... ion-Ladder

I like what David D says...

"So, do you date your customers?" (with a smile)

Its funny you said that ... would have been a great C&F line I'd use on any Hired Gun's that was showing genuine interest in me ... but the girl Im talking about wasnt my waitress (never was) ... I was just sitting at the bar just having fun conversation with my bartender and she just kind of came over and said Hi while she was picking up her drinks for her customers. (thinking about that time now it really seemed like she wanted to include herself in the conversation lol)

great going flipstar, +reputation for you. it was fun to read your report.

"she asked me what I was doing next week .. I told her I might be busy ... but she plowed ahead and told me about a friends birthday party happining and wanted to know if I wanted to go with her???"
i like your false disqualifier... shes definitely is showing interest, even to the point of trying to show you off to her friends. some things you will have to do soon is to kiss her next time you see her. make a goal to have sex within two weeks of dating her, if not you will be stuck in the friend zone. that is of course, unless she cant have sex because of religious commitments like my current girlfriend.

Of all the posts I've read about guys going with all the "pick up cliches"(push pull, pretend to kiss and pull back, etc . . .), it seems you've pulled them off the best. Still . . . have some confidence. She's in the bag. Just go with your feelings . . . pull more than push.

Thanks kasabi for your great replies ... I always come in here and read them with my smartphone (when Im out) and it brings a smile to my face every time I read your posts.

Thanks Newbie2thagame for the vote ... I really appriciate it when someone thinks a bit highly of me ... and there's nothing wrong with religion really ... I mean the "Live for God" part (i use to be a Christian myself) .. It was the church rules that drove me away from any church ... I dont like stupid non-sense rules overshadowing me and my potential... so I quit lol! ...

Anyways ... Christina was my first Hired Gun that Ive had the great chance of knowing (even though she has never served me before) I hope you learned something from here so you can hitt up on some Hired Guns yourself

I'll definately post a report after I come home from the Birthday party on Friday ... (yes its possible I might be drunk outta my head ... and I might write alot of information haha lol)

Cheers to the Brotherhood!!

Alright ... this is a report for you guys ... I'm drunk and wasted so please bear with me haha!

I got my mother to take me out for dinner at this bar/restaurant that I frequent alot ... The manager and waitresses know me there so it was the best place for me to take my mother to. When I got there the manager (whom I know very well) treated us like royalty ... took us to the VIP spot where my mother and I wont be bothered by the noise of the crowd. Guess who was my server ... yes thats right it was Christina (whom I was playing my game with hardcore) she was so happy to see me ... especially with my mother (shes prob seeing my soft side of me ... ya know me taking my mother here and all) ... so ya she brought me drinks (she knows what I drink and didnt have to ask) and I was totally playing my Cocky & Funny routine on her in front of my mother ... she must of guessed I really liked her and totally didnt interrupt me ... My mother is great and was totally telling me to ask her out on a date cuz she wont be around forever to take care of me .... anyways all night I was negging her and being Cocky & Funny to her all night long and she was giving me alot of IOI's ... the one that standed out was she was rubbing her leg up against my arm ... and gawd it felt great ya know! haha lol ... My night with my mother went fantastic and I even got my mother laughing at my antics with Christina ... Awesome night all in all!!! Eventually I pretended to excuse myself when we were done our meals ... I got Christina all alone and I asked her on a first date ... I was like "Ya you owe me a small date for standing up on me last sunday (ya I frequent at this bar/restaurant alot)" ... and she was all sorry and apologizing for nothing (because it wasnt true at all I guess she was playing along) and again she gave me her number and told me to text her when she gets off to set up a date ... YES! haha I'm in Cloud 9 rite now ... all drunk and happy haha lol!

So im gonna text her tommorrow to set up a date with her for some coffee at Starbucks ...

Theres my report for tonight ... hope you guys enjoyed as much as I did ... I'll definately leave another report on how Christina's Friends Birthday goes on Friday Night so check back here at that time for a juicy story.

Allright I'm signing off with this quote "Always leave them better off then when you met them."

Cheers to the Brotherhood!