heres the quick scoop:

Ive been talking to this HB9 for about 2 weeks. We talk every day and she txts me all the time as well as calls me at night. We have been consistently talking on the phone for 3+ hours a night, many times ending at 4 in the morning.

I've been playing the whole thing really smooth, not giving too much, not pulling away too much. I'll give her negs here and there and then throw a slight comment her way.

Anyway, this girl is amazing to say the least.

Last night we were talking about sex....of course. The game running through my head exceeded the speed in which i spoke and I tripped over my words. In a desperate recovering try, I let it slip that I liked her.

After that...it wasnt long before I got the:

HB: "Well I think you're a really good friend too."

Esquire: (*sigh* FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [in my head] *sigh*)





At this point I'm stuck...

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Esquire

(dont be mad, just trying to help)


Here's the problem

Why in hell are you spending so much time talking on the phone with her. You can't possible know so much negging and DHV routines to keep this going for more than an hour or two of material tops.
That means, you are AFCing, and bad too.

now she knows she has a girlfriend (you) to talk to at nights and fuck with your head.

Solution:

this is going to take some hard-core negging and freezeouts.

1) Stop talking on the phone! Freeze her out. If she asks, say you are very busy (at night), you got a date, whatever. Ask her for sex advice and neg her at it.
Stuff like: what do you think I should wear? Blue or Black jacket (whatever)

Whatever she picks, say:

No you dork. I will go with the other Jacket. (or briefs or sock-suspenders, whatever the hell u're wearing).

2) When she starts bitching about u not calling back/texting, start negging her as say shit about how, listen I like you as a friend, but not much else. (along these lines)

Do the old switcharoo. make it seem like it is YOU who wants to be "just friends"
And a lot of freezing out!!!!!.

Make plans with her, and then cancel them (say: you understand right?... oh your such a good friend)
Steal her frame.

She will be, WTF, I am supposed to be in these shoes.



It will take lots of work.
and stop talking with her on the phone so much.

Nice tips BENZ...

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Well said Benz... as for you Esquire that's what happens when you stay in comfort zone for too long! you can still recover but you risk losing her for good... the lesson here is to not lose your cool and stay in the game play it or be played.

Esquire lose this girl its over u failed to escalate sexually from ur first encounters. Being afraid to push the limit cost u in this one. She said said the dreaded words ur a good friend. U put yourself there by never going for a the kiss or making ur intentions clear u stayed SAFE.
Being Safe =no results=friend zone=frustrations=no putang pie

So next time pull the trigger sooner

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Effort surpasses Talent, but of course I already have Talent I'm just putting Effort on Top of that

My Comments:
- You're in the LJBF zone now
- 'Freeze Outs' are only used in S2. You're not even close. If you do that now you'll just be 'distant' and 'incongruent'(aka shit test failure)
- NEGGING is only for A1-A2, your now into the C's but are unable to phase shift.
- To get out of the LJBF zone your going to have to pull back for a bit then come back to DHV. NEGS can be used then but only to get her to the point to validate to you.
- Stop talking about sex with her. But don't get nervous if she brings it up. Just respond with 'Respect' and move on. Here's a line I was told about AFCs and sex "Sex is like Air, you only talk about it when your not getting any'.

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Holden/28/Canada
Style of Game: Pragmatic Pimp Approach