Ah, foreign women, I too, have a thing for foreign chicks (I'm a German girl fan... minus the guttural language).

Unfortunately, the spoken word is an integral part of interpersonal communication.

To be honest, I'm far too lazy to put a lot of effort into someone that I cannot speak to. I mean, you could pantomime or draw pictures or something or make flash cards or something, I suppose. I don't know, most of the foreign women that I encounter have a fairly good grasp on the English language.

Ends weirdly? Like how? Like you not telling them to leave in the morning?

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its like although you know they're a good person, you're attracted to them and you know about them.. its hard to go past talking 'base level' cause half the time they don't understand, and you try to explain and be nice but they still don't understand and you kinda give up. But thats kinda my problem and not the problem of the situation.. But really, I mean, half the time you tell a story and they go "ahh, cool" or they explain everything as "auh, it wuz soo borring" you know? you tell them something and they can't give anything back. I think they need to have a certain level of english language knowledge for there to be a real um, development of relationshipness (if you know what I mean)

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whats up medic i knida posed this befor but aint get much of a reply.

im with this girl who i met at work, and we were freinds and things got more intimate when she said "you wanna fuck me?" i said yea and took her to a closet at our job but she said she was jk and from the we chilled and made out and talked, then soon she broke up with her bf supposedly cause she cheated on him and hes in another state btw. i wasnt feelin her so when she would call to hang out i would say im busy or what ever and eventually we aint see eachother for 2 months and when we did meet up she said she got back with her bf and wouldnt let me kiss her. i sweet talked her and kinda played her game of being scared that she had a bf, but at the end of the night she was naked in my car and then she was on my side and i was hugging her and kissing her. this happened 2 more times then one day we went out and and saw a movie and went to the peirs and she came on my side of the car and we cuddled kissed and groped. she said if she gives it up to me too easy ill leave and she doesnt want that so i told her im more interested in you for who you are and some more bs. the next weekend i call her and she tells me how she aint feelin it anymore, im too agressive, i hurt her when i grab her neck to kiss etc and i said why you sayin this and she aint say, then she said shell call me bak so i decide to drop her, called up another freind and we went out to the movies that night.

the next day she calls me and asks me if im mad and i said yea cause i liked her and we talk about me not knowing my strenght and i said ill learn to control it. we go out the next weekend and on that sunday i went to her house to paint and i was gonna fuck her but when i took off her clothes her vag was very hairy and she was on her period and i aint had no gloves and she woudnt let me go in raw so we hugged up and kissed and cuddled then went to the peirs and did our routine. the next 2 weekends from then i took her to city islad then we went to another peir in manhattan and we hugged and kissed and i started suking her tits then i fingered her, and she unzipped my pants and came on my side and then a flashlight came though the window and the attendant said its 25/hr to park here but he let us get 1/2 hour for free on a farther sid. we went but we didnt do it cause she was scared and i had no tints and it was kinda busy so i just fingered her and she went crazy she was choking me and and low moaning. then i took her home and i call her regularly and ask if she wants me to get her but she say its ok dont worry about it and i did a few times then she got sick and i offered to get her/take her to work but she said its ok no. whils she was home this weekend i talked to her and she said she was feeling bad so i offered to go see her but she said hes not feeling good so i said ok. i called her at work in the late afernoon and we talked for an hour and i aske if i can get her she said sshell lmk so i said ok, and we talked for an hour and then she said she gotta go and shell call me bak. she aint call since then and im not calling her either but what do you make of this situation? you think i should call on fri to see her or wait for her to call? its v day on sun but i hate askin to get her and she say its ok i dont have to.

Medic,

What is your opinion on the best way to handle a flaky girl?

@sacred...
Man, I wouldn't waste my time. That's just me & my humble opinion. If they're there, they are obviously interested. I can completely understand how it's frustrating speaking to someone when they can't properly communicate with them. I'm a big talker, so, if I can't talk to someone, I walk away and don't look back... again, that's just me. I'm probably not the proper resource for this situation.

@evo
1- Another state or not, cheating is cheating.
2- What do I make of this situation? She's young and isn't sure what she wants. Don't play the phone call standoff game, it's lame. If you're interested in talking to her and you haven't heard from her in a few days, give her a call and see what's going. As far as Valentine's Day, again, if you want to go out with her, do it! There's nothing to be afraid of, if she says no, y'all can go out another time, no big deal.

Maybe your posts aren't getting much of a response because they're very difficult to read. If you make full sentences, it helps, from what I've seen. If you need more help, we're here.

@KKat
Flakey girls flake for a few reasons, as I'm sure you know. The main reasons are 1- they feel like they need to play that cat and mouse game &/or 2- they're not really all that interested. If you feel that she's playing a cat and mouse game, the good ol' push - pull, give her a little, build that attraction. If you think that she's not all that interested, move on, there are more at the store, she's not the only one. It makes no sense wasting your time following a lead that's not going to develop into anything.

With that said, this hits home because I'm in a situation with a flakey girl right now. I hold a firm 3 strikes rule. I will make three solid attempts to get together with a girl, if after the third time, she flakes, she's out. The first flake, I understand, things come up, sometimes plans need to be cancelled. It's always good to give someone preverbal "the benefit of the doubt." The second time, tell her "that's strike two!" If she flakes the third time... don't even waste your time calling her back. If she wants to get together with you, she'll make the effort.



@ALL: I don't want to see any of you spending time chasing chicks around that are either "dead leads" or toxic people. No matter what you do, will not be able to attract some women. It's true that attraction is not a choice, the inverse is true also, it's not a choice if they're not attracted to you. It's not personal, you guys aren't a good fit, mentally or physically or whatever. Furthermore, make sure that you're making every decision that will be positive for you. You don't need drama in your life. Make good decisions, think with your brains, not your dicks.

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I have a good question.

I've gone through a few different books, programs, etc in my day, and a few
advocating natural game. What i want more than anything out of the community
is to be that natural who lives in sexual abundance and doesn't have to try so
damn hard memorizing routines etc.

that said, none of these natural advocating programs give a concrete plan to
actually becoming a natural, they seem very ambiguous. What is a concrete plan
in your opinion to becoming that natural alpha male who lives in sexual
abundance? I don't even care if it's a long process which im sure it is, I'm just
committed to becoming this guy and i'd like somewhat of a roadmap of how to
get there.

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Chris,

If someone told you how to be a natural, that wouldn't be too... uuuh... natural, would it?

The best advice that I can give is to work on your inner game, to be a strong, confidant man. It is, truly, all about inner game. For me, Hypnotica was a huge help. He is one of the few "gurus" that I actually recommend following.

I believe that being a natural is all about "gaming life," not just about sex. When your life comes into balance, you will be able to have whatever you want, whenever you want.

Life, love, family, friends, work, sex, etc... everything.

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Following on from that point bro. I have been practising game for around 18 months and am now mostly natural with a few routines of my own thrown in. For some reason or another though sometimes it hits, sometimes it just doesnt and im still learning as i go.

If you are going out practising natural game over and over , are you going to get fast results? Sometimes ill stumble across something that works but i sometimes ill be doing the same kind of things over an over and struggling with the attraction building.
What is the best routine for gaining results. And im out 4/5 nights a week at the mo btw.

Thanks

CB

hey medic

what is your point of view on dancing and dancegame, what is your experience and what are the pro's and con's to your opinion? all together : what are the most important issues/points @ dancegame.

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I'm no Fred Astaire. I, basically, keep myself out of situations that require me to dance. With that said, when I was younger, I was quite the dancer... but I wasn't trying to do a mating dance, I was just dancing because I liked to.

The pros/cons of dance game. Well, subliminally, it's fairly well documented that ones ability on the dance floor is correlated to their sexual prowess. If you're dancing with a lass, you can get a fair amount of kino going... that's never bad.

The cons are simple. 1- You can just look dumb and embarrass yourself. 2- Generally, if you're in a environment that lends itself to dancing, the music is loud. As stated in an earlier post, I rely on my ability as an orator. Loud venues take away from your ability to comfortably speak to someone.

Go with what you're comfortable with. If you can cut-a-rug, dance the night away. It's fun and chicks dig it. Don't think that if you have two left feet that you're out of the game, you just have to capitalized on the skills that you do have.

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Thank's for getting back to me on this one Medic.

I am on the verge of telling her, and breaking up with her. This situation has brought some clarity to me...if I loved my girlfriend I wouldn't have done this. That's the bottom line.

So that makes my decision obvious. Now, I haven't heard from this English girl in a week now, not sure what to make of it...maybe it's a sign, maybe she is just swamped at work, I don't know.

I am going to have to drop both of them I think. It will hurt, but it needs to be done.

On that last point you made, "leave her better than you found her"...yeah I remember that was one of the first things I read back in 2008 when beginning this journey. It's always in the back of my mind. I don't see how I can do this in this situation. My GF is clingy, seriously loves me, I can't stay with her out of pitty...so I either destroy her or live a sad unfulfilled life so she can remain happy.

It is terrible, and I get really emotional thinking about how much this will hurt her.


Thank's again Medic, feel more than free to add your 2 cents in regarding this post.

Cheers!

Anytime, bro.

Listen, it's easy for me to sit here and give you a play by play from behind my keyboard, but the reality is where you stand. You have to do the right thing. Only you know what that right thing is. Just like the old adage says that the right thing isn't always the easy thing.

Choose your words wisely, do what you have to do. Keep in mind that you are effecting at least two persons' lives, possibly three. You are, positively changing your life and your girlfriend's. Then you need to figure out what you're going to do with the English girl. She's not your girl, you can just walk away... it kinda looks like she's doing that anyway.

You should be thinking about leaving her better than when you found her in every action and thought throughout the day. It's a little late to be trying to figure out how to do it, for this girl. There's, virtually, no way to get around hurting her.

I know that there is a faction of men and women on this forum who don't believe in this, but I believe in karma. Just like my mom taught me when I was a kid, "what goes around comes around." All I can suggest is for you to do your best to clean your conscious and to try to keep your head and your ass wired together from now on.

Best of luck.

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Hi Medic

im new to the community and got one (for me) difficult problem.

i got to know to a 8 through the internet and was able to make her trust me by listening to her and giving her advice in family stuff.
in the beginning it wasnt my inention to pick her up.
this has changed.
she just send me an sms after a phone call(quote, sry for mistakes, i have to translate):
i dunno y but i feel i have to wish you a good night and get well(im ill SPAM)
and thank u for always giving me the opportunity to call you although ur a stranger in a way.

note: i havent met her yet, although she seems to know some of my friends.
what should be my next few steps?
thanks!

So, you've changed your mind, you want to game her now... hmm.

Well, I would suggest to lay off being her amateur psychologist. Did you text her back? Tell me more, I'm intrigued.

I think that the obvious first step would be to meet her face-to-face. See what kind of connection there is. Things can change drastically from internet/phone to face-to-face.

Oh yeah, welcome to the community.


Edit: I don't care what anyone says, Alabama is a fun state!

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hi medic

well the thing with meeting her is the big problem cause now that she's told me that much very private stuff she'd rather prefer me to stay a stranger, because as i said we have some friends we both know.

believe me tried to stop that but how to if she just doesnt stop talking bout her family probs? (regard our age her 18 me 19)

oh no i didnt text back she called me in the morning