Ok guys, so tonights the night when im goin on a date with a hb9, not only is she hot but she also does photoshoots for lads magazines here in the uk. Its fair to say that im sh*tting myself! lol Im usually a confident kinda guy around girls but this one is awesome! She has a good personality aswell. I need some tips and/or advice on gaining some confidence to helo the conversation run smoothly and to help avoid those dreaded long silences!
Any tips would be appreciated!
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I’m from the UK (Birmingham) too!

Been in your position many, many times since learning about the game around 3 ½ - 4 years ago.

First and foremost, learn NOT to put women, especially hot women, on a pedestal! Their looks are irrelevant as far as you (rAFC or PUA) are concerned, it’s their personality and character that count. Use this as a neg (in a playful way) and it’s also a DHV spike too.

Definitely, get some DHV stories and routines ready (search the forum), also have an overall game plan – going where, doing what and how the night should end. Remember: your time is precious and you lead and she follows - not the other way round!

And be careful about Neging her job. Alot of models get "WHORE!" alot because of them using their body as their job. (Sounds stupid but true.)

EvoJ

I like to pull the "Hand Model" Routine.

HB9: Yeah I'm a model
YOU: What a hand model?

--update--

well, its the day after the night before, and what an experience last night was!
Went well, got loads of kisses, explored her body by asking to see her tattoos, talked about random things and shes now really into me!
Got a txt 2day basically sayin she wants to be my gf...... which throws up a few problems!

1. Its abit sudden and seems maybe a little needy
2. I would have to withdraw from the game, and i feel im only starting to get warmed up

Shes really hot which is what is causins me these problems, and im pretty stuck now with what to do!
Help!

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*** Remember, I am still new too.. get other's opinions as well.***

Explain to her the situation. Just make sure you do it in a good way.

Such as :

PUA: "I'm just not ready to settle down yet and I plan on dating other women."

Most women will respect your honesty here. Let them know that your too young to make a commitment like that.. IF you actually do ever want to be in that type of relationship!

Personally, I let women know that: "I like monogamistic women and but I want to be a polygamist." They will start to get mad and I will say.

"I like a woman who is dedicated to one man like that. In fact, I look for that in my women... But, I tell them right off the bat, like I'm doing right now with you so that you can know exactly how I feel. I would rather be up front and honest about my feelings. IT is all about honesty and communication."

If they say that isn't fair then I say

"No, it is kind of like the fact that you look for a man who is funny, and down to earth and has big arm muscles. Now, all those things are just traits that a man has. Well, we both may want some of the same things but there are some different traits we look for. I don't want a woman with big arm muscles. If you could bench press me I would not be okay with that. Well.... Anyway, the point is that I am looking for a woman who wants to be with just one man but can be openminded and understanding enough to see that I need different things. When I met you I was sure that I had found that woman."


But that is just me. Remember, turn it into something good. Like I turned Polygamy into Honesty and the fact that she is understaning and openminded. Now if she was ME to be a monogomist then she is trying to deny what I am (and by proxy why she likes me) and she is showing how closeminded she is.

But remember, this is just for me! If you don't want a serious relationship with multiple women then don't ever do this. It would be much easier if you just said "I'm not ready to settle down yet." That way it won't get serious but you can still play the field.

EvoJ

good stuff evo.

My situation is probably fairly unique but it forces me to be honest with women. I have a girl that in all liklihood I'm going to end up with. I love her she loves me...ya know the normal stuff. But we live far from each other and neither of us are ready for that sort of commitment. So she's fine with me doing my thing as long as I don't date anyone. So if a different girl threatens relationship or nada I'm perfectly fine going with nada because I have someone already. I try to tell the girls that I don't want a committed relationship because I like what we currently have. Tell them the benefits...They don't have to worry about a jealous boyfriend when she goes out with her friends etc.

This won't be good enough for some girls so you'll probably get a few who turn you down, but if this HB9 you are talking about isn't 'The One' than I think it's in your best interest to follow mine and EvoJ's advice. Be honest and sincere, but don't start a relationship.

Well its been a while since my last post and the situation has moved on ALOT! since then. She basically wants a relationship with me now, been on a few dates but we havent slept together or anything yet.
Im stuck with what to do, shes pretty cool but i got an issue with the distance between us. Its already causing problems!

Well anyways im probs gonna end this thread here before it turns from a thread about picking up a girl to something that resembles and agony aunt page!
Moral of the story - Choose your targets carefully, they aint all the next best thing! lol

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