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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:30 pm 
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Hey whatsup I'm new to the game! And I been reading alot of posts and figured I'd post my situation and see what you guys think and can help!

So check this out I met this chick maybe about 3 weeks ago at work and we've seen eachother maybe like for an hr a day 2 or 3 times in those weeks.. So then she asked me for my phone number and everything. She started hitting me up alot.. So i was txting her alot which i guess isnt the right thing to have done because it shows that I'm too available?? But anyway so i was sorta seeing this girl and she was in the same situation with some guy where it just wasnt working out with me and that girl and her and that guy. So I broke it off with that girl and she said that she was done with that guy. 1 day after work she hit me up and we met up and grabbed something to eat. She gave me a tremendous amount of eye contact but no real touching at all.. After when she got home around 1 am she txt me saying that was alot of fun! then she was still txting me everyday i was supposed to go out with her another time but i got there like an hr too late and it was an event where if you get there late you cant get in so she went in without me.. But either way things stil were good she was txting me all the time but I think i messed up because on valentines day she was gonna be around the area and I told her to come meet up with me. But her plans were cancelled and I told her that I would go to the city where she is if she had no plans. And she just sent me a smiley face reply :) .. So i feel like that was a big shut down? How she gonna send a smiley face after i asked her out pretty much .. anyways so that brings us to today. Usualy she would txt me early in the mornin but she didnt so i hit her up with one of the txts i was reading in your txt game section and it went smooth but she cut the convo short.. She could be busy.. No clue.. But anyway where do you think i stand and is there anyway i can save this????


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:58 pm 
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Hey,Im a fish,you're totally over reacting this.

Plus,your situation is unique in a good sense that she asked for your # opposed to you begging for it. That's a major IOI(indicator of interest).

So to say that you'd over texted her doesn't apply to you since she #closed you.

Where do you stand? In pretty good place I'd say.

But the only thing you did wrong was suggesting going to her city in order to see her. What the hell are you doing!!?

Never do that:you've weirded out the HB by telegraphing way too much interest! She doesn't deserve it yet and she knows it. She's saying to herself,"why is this strange guy suggesting coming to my town when I haven't earned it"?

IOI for and IOI. Meaning,if the target has done something good according to the seduction:she flirts,touches you,show intersts,etc. Only then should you show her interest by rewarding her.

Now this' what you should've said:"Hey,HB8,I happened to be passing through your town with few friends.We're going to... It'd be nice if you can come along or meet me at..."

That shows her that you were coming to her town anyway,not because of her. You're just inviting her along. That shows that she isn't that important nor is she worthy of you going out of your way to see her.

She'd then feel inadecuate and look to qualify by showing you that she is worth your attention.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 6:30 am 
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Thanks for the info!! Do you think i should go in for a K close next time i see her? I'm going to work tommorow afternoon so ima see her so i was thinking after maybe trying to get some lunch and go for a k close some how? What do you think? And if i should go for a k close how do i do it? I just dont want it to end up in failure then awkward at work! but i feel like she does like me and i like her as well... any advice is much appreciated!! she didnt txt me all day today! she usualy does like the 3 hr marathon !


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 16, 2010 7:29 am 
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Well these are the general community rules on kiss closes:

Wait until she shows you IOI(she licks her lips,touches u or hits you playfully,carresses her hair or twirl strands of it,she tilts her head side ways while talking or listening,etc.).

If she shows any of the above or more,she's ready to be kissed.

Most women would need to be pushed to display these signs,meaning you have to make her do the above by:being playful,KINOing her(tapping her,hitting her playfully,giving her demonstration of whatever that allows you to touch her,etc.).

The main one is playfulness. Guys underestimate this. You should be playful and light-hearted when attempting a kiss-not fucking somber!

#2,don't make kissng her a big deal or a job. Frame it as though its natural for you to kiss girls(as to reward her)

Now just don't go dive in at any time.

Once you notice her displaying any of the above signs. Give her the "LOOK"[according to Swingcat,my favorite dating coach in the community].Give her a look as though you want to kiss her(eye contact and head tilted a bit to side).

And make sure you're next to her while attempting a kiss.Don't dive in from 5 feet-she'd turn away and reject the kiss if it comes from too far(that gives her too much time to think). So make sure you invade her space when trying to kiss her.

Now,after doing the aboves(the look,etc.),you can do this kiss gambit by Juggler(the dating coach):As she's talking,put a finger up to her lips and say,shhh,you talk too much,then kiss her.

Make it playful-its the key. And don't go for a tounge kiss the first time. Make it a peck on the lips or even forehead.

Or try this kiss routine by Swingcat:Give her the LOOK,get closer to her,touch her(hold her hand maybe).She'd feel a rush of attraction.Suggest you're about to kiss her,then pause and give her the look again. You're sparking fire in her,then you push her away(playfully with a giggle)or just move bacc a bit. Then move in again,then push her away again. At this point,she may think she's crazy(lol).If she doesn't grab you and kiss you,kiss her now instead.

Swingcat stated,"There's no rejection to the above kiss routine because its a game.Women love this 'cause it shows them you're in control,and that's how they get aroused."

With all that being said,you can still attempt an awkward kiss as every other guy and get rejected(the good night kiss,end of date kisses which doesn't spark anything).

Or you can use 1 of the above 2 kiss gambits(Juggler's or Swingcat's)which will spark attraction & sexual tension in her.

Remember,look for her signs,make her give those signs,give her the look,playful taps,get closer,push her away or just move bacc a bit,move back in,then kiss

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Thanks so much for your advice! I didn't go to work today because I was feeling sick! She hasnt txt or call me either which is weird but I'm keeping positive energies and I should see her thursday and I'm going to try and set everything up so we can hang out this weekend! and ill keep you posted


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