Hey guys,

I met this HB8 on Thursday night, I don't know if this was a mistake or not, but basically when I asked for her number I said something like 'I don't like liars/wasting my time, so if I call you are you going to pick up?'. Perhaps a bit harsh, perhaps AFC, I don't really know. Either way, she responded ok to it, and was like 'yea, of course I will, or I wouldn't give you my number'... which she then proceeded to do.

She and her friend were going to a hospital to visit friends after the bar (they are nurses), so I texted her the next day something funny about going to the hospital, to which she responded almost immediately, and we sent a few more messages back and forth. Tried to call her on Saturday, didn't pick up, and I'm not sure if she has Vmail, it rang like 7 times. So, I dropped her a text just saying, give me a call when you have a sec. No reply. I should have left it, but was I going to be in her city on Sunday/Monday (my mom lives there). texted her on Sunday saying I'll be in ___ today and tomorrow, we should grab a coffee. She responded with 'Im working now and have plans later'... I took it as a positive that she replied, but a negative that she didn't try to give me a time that worked for her. I threw out a 'what about tomorrow' and haven't heard back since.

i've got nothing to lose here, and the obvious solution is to just ditch her and find some new targets, which I will be glad to do. But I was thinking of trying one last text to spin it around on my statement I had made about not liking liars, and try to call her out and elicit a repsonse that way? Any ideas on something clever I can say about this, or do you guys think it's game over on this one?

Drizzy,Drizzy,Drizzy,Im disappointed at you.

This' the problem with this case:

You haven't attracted the target enough nor at all.

She just gave you her # from being polite. Some girls have problem rejecting guys so they'd give their #s out of bein polite and not seeing like a bitch.

That's what happened in this case.You didn't attract the girl. She gave the # without any intentions of hooking up.

You have yourself to blame for having weak game with her.

And to top it off,you never talked to her on the phone-Im thinking.

You should know that you cannot game a girl via text only.

No where have you mentioned that yall had numerous convos via phone,etc.

You cannot build comfort via text. Comfort is what lets her be willing to meet. So she's gonna flake on you to death since she's not comfortable because you haven't build comfort.

Plus she's not attracted to you because you hadn't attracted her from the initial meet.

Women are liars. To be politically correct,women have less attachment to words and are flakey with promises.

So despite her saying she'll answer the phone and she would not have given the # is bullshit!

Yes she would still give the # knowing to herself that she doesn't intend to meet nor talk.

If she isn't attracted,she won't answer the phone,nor would she comply. She may text as she'd done,but that's because texting has no or less attachment.

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Damn man, you are right. Basically while I did have a pretty solid conversation with her (about 45 minutes), there really weren't THAT many IoI's or anything. Little bit of kino, but that's about it. One thing she did say which I thought was positive was when I left her for a bit and came back she said 'I like talking to you, and there are a lot of creepos here, so if you see me talking to anyone can you interrupt'... I have been able to be pretty succesful in the past with even less attraction building than this. For instance, grabbed a girl's # on my way out of a bar (only a 5 minute convo and ended up dating for a few weeks). So, I didn't put too much thought into it.

I agree that I need to get her on the phone to build comfort, which is what I would have liked to do. I guess I was going about it backwards though. Since she didn't call me back, I thought I would build some comfort through text, then try to give her a call again.

Ah well, I see where my game was weak here, so I'm going to do some work on building attraction. I'm thinking calling again would seem needy. Any ideas on if this is salvagable? Or should I as Hova says move 'on to the next one'?

It sems like yall had a pretty decent chat.

For her to say that there's a lot of creepos here and to interrupt would tell me that she's digging you.

Mayb you DLV'd some where down the line in the chat that turned her off.

I'd personally call few more times then just leave her alone if no reply.

If she's into you,she'd get bacc to you.

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So, I called her, and she got back to me this time. Basically saying she is seeing someone else and it would be weird to start dating because she isn't sure where they stand.
Ha, or that she just wanted me talking to her to keep other guys away... fuck.

Oh well, still going to keep working on building deeper attraction and keep getting out there!