Guys,

Since a little bit more than a half year I am in a LTR and I can feel my game dropping. The longer I am in the LTR, the more my previously achieved levels of game drop! The LTR is going very well, but I go much less out (without GF) than I used to do. Hence, I don't get a chance to maintain my game. I am still well aware of the main principles of the game but I hardly apply it, except with my GF. Eventhough the LTR goes very well, I would like to maintain my earlier level of game (I am feeling it dropping, so I want to avoid this and even get it back on the previous level again while I am in LTR).

There are some problems. I simply don't have enough time to go out without GF as I used to. When there is time, she is around, which I enjoy very much. Usually I see her 3-4 times a week. Sometimes I even don't feel like going out on my own, let alone throwing openers. I want this LTR to continue but I also want to maintain my game and even improve it further.

What do you suggest? Do I need to go out a certain number of times a month without GF and actively practice game at these occasions? What if she starts thinking: "usually you do not go out anymore". And how to 'get rid of her' when she starts about me having the urge to go out without her?

What is the appropriate way here?

Well, why do feel like you have to keep your level of game up and why do you want to keep improving it?

Why letting it go? At least, if it does not harm the LTR. Maybe I am totally wrong here, maybe it's not possible to have it both ways.

Do we have to sacrifice game when we enter the LTR or should one always try to keep the game level constant or even better, no matter what? Would this be further self-improvement or needless sabotage of the LTR? How do you view it?

First, the only reason I would go into an LTR is if I saw this person as marriage material and could spend the rest of my life with her. If I couldn't then you could potentially be leading the girl on and she is going to get hurt(most people like to leave the girl at a better place and so do I). Having an open relationship with the girl would be best in that type of situation, but some girls don't like that, which makes a LTR even more harmful to the girl and it's not what you really want. Therefore, gaming other chicks in a LTR to keep your game up means that you already think the relationship is bound to fail, so why be in it? Also, in my opinion it's the equivalent of a girl giving out her number to guys at bars/clubs while in a LTR and always having a guy "Friend" following her around, otherwise known as the back burner.

I don't know about you, but I would want my girl to be 100% committed to me and not having someone or a safefall just in case the relationship fails or whatever. Being in an LTR is a risk for both parties, and if one isn't taking the risk then it isn't going to work. (Risk meaning getting hurt in the end)

You don't really have to let it go, since negs(Bantering), not being needy and a lot of the stuff transfers over to LTR game, but LTR game is way different that PU game. (You don't need early game for LTR's)

You can self-improve, without gaming women. Gaming women, again in my opinion, is purposely creating attraction(normally sexual) between the woman and yourself. I would consider that a form of cheating, however you may not. There is a big difference between gaming women, and having a friendly chat with one. So, I do not mean stop talking to people/women once you are in a relationship.

What you maybe seeking is the validation that girls are attracted to you? I don't really know for sure, but I can sense this is caused by your inner game. LTR is an inner game battle and that's what you should be improving for self-improvement as well as game and not to mention it will do you LTR wonders.

My suggestion is work on your inner game, and think a lot of why you think your game is failing/falling. Think about why you want to go out alone, or why you don't want to go out at all. Forget about cause and effect. I.E this LTR is making my game drop(Cause LTR, Effect game drop). In the end of it all, make sure you are doing what you want to do, that is the most important thing.

In my opinion, you give up your right to game for the intention of finding a sexual partner or someone date the minute you get into an LTR.

Think about it this way: when you first got into gaming, why did you get into it?

If you got into it to find a LTR, then you've won the game.

If you got in it to have sex with a lot of people, then you either made a poor decision based on your own goals, or you got into the LTR to have sex. You're bound to hurt someone this way.

If you got in it to audition lots of girls to find the girl of your dreams, you need to let the girls know that you don't like to jump into something serious right away, and you want to take time to get to know them so no one gets hurt. This is what I always do, it just feels like a smart decision. Sure you're going to get some girls who get mad and say "Well I wouldn't have had sex with you if it wasn't going somewhere." They're mad because they want you, you have to shrug that off, but at the end of the day if you don't promise anything and you aren't being malicious then you've done nothing wrong.

Imo, your options at this point are:
A.) Keep your skills up while winging your friends in.
B.) Game your gf into being even more all about you.
C.) Game targets and be honest about the fact that you have a girlfriend. Make some actual friends that are girls.

None of these options involve you getting laid or dating other girls. You should be single if you want to do that.

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Good comments!

However, it's not about getting laid or something like that, there are no such intentions. The LTR is going great and the intention is to keep it that way. However, further self-improvement never hurts.

I have the impression that my social skills have not improved a lot since I am in the LTR. The reason is obvious: there is no flirting as there used to be. There is simply no time or occasion for interaction with strange women. Of course, it's not necessary when you are in a LTR, but social skills are always very appriciated by every one, including your GF. These social skills can be learned but if not used from time to time, you will start losing them.

Imagine this:

You are invited by the female friends of your GF to a party with a few people, all of them women. One of them is your GF. You need to be a nice guy and not hit on one of them (you don't want it). However, you will have to play them at least a little bit, otherwise you will be blamed because they get boring (they are not led). If your social skills are bad, even your GF's attraction may start dropping (you are showing low value to her female friends). I am saying that there should be the ability to lead a few women for a certain (significant) period of time. They will not mind as long as you don't hit on them (any normal man would not in this case). As for me, I have the feeling that I used to lead a group of women better before the LTR.

I am talking about not losing your skills for the sake of LTR but also for the sake of being a little bit interesting to others.

As far as the inner game is concerned, probably it has to do with inner game too. When you don't interact/flirt a lot, also the inner game is affected a bit.