So me and my friend have been going out lately, looking for girls. I have gotten past the fear of talking to girls by going around and telling them "Hi, I'm steve the Martian, what's your favorite flavor of color?" they would usually smile and keep walking. I don't exactly remember what the technique is called but thats not what I'm on to talk about right now.
Back to the story me and my friend where going out a couple times a week looking for some girls. We stopped and crashed some parties we had heard about earlier in the day. As the party gets going I picked a decent looking girl(about a 7 or 7.5) just to see if what I have learned so far will work( keep in mind I have only dont a little of sarging before). I walk up and say "Hi" and smile. She looks at me and says "Hi" back with a little smile. After that happened I was on my owe I hadn't rehearsed any openers before I had gone there. So I used what I had, I noticed her smile and remembered something my friend said as an opener a couple weeks before. I said "You know where that smile would look even better?"
She replied with "Where?", I said "Right on mine." and thats where the conversation ended. She walked away and I didn't see the rest of the nite.

So now what I'm wondering is what went wrong!!! I tried to figure it out for myself, but all I could think of was what I said. I could use some help was I trying to hard?, did I use a bad line?

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Enjoi, this shit gonna go

so lets say you are at a party and a fat girl who you would never have sex with comes up to you and says hi.

What would you say?


Probably Hi back.


Then the fat, ugly girl says: Do you know where that smile would look better?

What would you say?

Probably: Where?

Fat, ugly: ON ME

What would you say or do?

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Walk Hard

Hey man,

It's funny what happened to you, cos I used to say crazy shit to girls when I first started out. I crack up when I think about the stuff I used to say back then. It doesn't help one's game though.

I'm not bashing you or anything. But, I'm just going to ask you a couple of questions, since I believe you already have the answers you are looking for.

Do you really believe in the line you said to her? Was that really you? Were you being authentic? Would you like a girl who approached you and was being inauthentic?

Do you think the moment really demanded for what you said?

Would you like to be treated as a guinea pig for someone's social experiment? Or would you like to be approached by a person who was being authentic and was genuinely interested in getting to know you?

Do you think if you really found this person interesting, and hence approached her, then you could have tried to have a real conversation with her?

Do you think it's better to get good at carrying on normal (honest and open: not pretending to be something you are not) conversations first, and then slowly as you develop an instinct for this stuff, then move on to advanced stuff like teasing and being funny with women?

Do you think you love what you do, do you follow your passions so much that you can talk about them with enthusiasm? If so, do you think you could give the girl a taste of your reality by sharing your passions and experiences with her through the conversation, rather than thinking of something witty to say to her all the time?

Do you think you can define standards of the girl you are looking for, both external appearance/looks and internal qualities. Then after approaching a girl based on her looks (if they match your criteria), can you then genuinely try to find out if she comes close to your standards?

Thanks for bashing im skull guys, It's what I needed to hear. So what your saying is that I should find some kind of common ground with her? I'm confused on how to open then.

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Enjoi, this shit gonna go

Opening a women comes with time. After a long time of using openers I just stopped talking to women. It was pointless because the openers didn't work. Sure I could talk to a girl, but she knew I was just a horney, desperate guy, making some bullshit line up so I could talk to her. Girls always know. I would stop stressing about it. But if you really want to talk to a girl. Just keep going man.

Introduce yourself, Ask them what they do. Be borning. Be yourself. Be your best self. Never say anything negative. If you already believe you don't say anything negative then I recomend you take some sort of course on how to see the world in a positive light.

Maybe work on your inner game more. Opening is just one step, but Inner game is the foundation you HAVE to build first. Or you will just be spinning your wheels in the mud, as we say in Texas.

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Walk Hard

Pat i wouldnt worry so much on what happened. happens to most of us when we start out. Just remember 2 or 3 openers and use them when you start off, dont worry so much about what happens after that just go with the flow. Theres not much feedback i can give, how was your delivery? if your were cocky funny it may of worked for some.

Sorry man. Couldn't reply earlier. Saw your question just now.

Nope. I'm talking about being REAL. If you really like a girl, then be open and honest about it with her.

Tell her where you are going in life. Find out more about her and see whether she matches your standards.

How many guys do you think she meets are so open and honest about how they feel about her? How many guys do you think are so honest about themselves?

But this may or may not work. It all depends to what degree you are living your purpose.

When you know you are living your life the way you want to and are really happy with your life, you won't feel like opening her using witty lines, hiding your true self from her, or feel like trying to impress her.

Check out the comments I've posted on these threads. You might find them useful:

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Thread #2: need-some-advice-vt61700.html?highlight=
Thread #3: how-to-have-a-stable-happy-and-healthy- ... highlight=

Hope this helps. Feel free to shoot more questions if you have any.