So there's this girl I met this year in school, and we've started going out places together, (movies, tennis, snowboarding, she kept me company while I picked up snowboardins stuff, food), but we never really said whether we are in a relationship and haven't really done any relationship-like things. (holding hands, kissing etc)

I have been sort of successful with pick up, but want a relationship this time, and want to know how to proceed.

So on the gondola the other day, she says how she really wants a profile picture for FB, and we sort of huddle together/embrace, but it was too dark and late in the day. She said she'd get it next time. I figured that right after this would be a good time to go for a k close, so was considering two things.

Keep her in the embrace after the picture but face her, and tell her how I think she's pretty fun and that we'de be good in a relationship together, then kiss afterwards...
OR
Keep her in the embrace and go right for a kiss

What do you think of these two options, or is there a third I should consider? This would be my first real relationship so I'd appreciate advice, and if you have any questions I'll be glad to answer.

The single best time I've found to go for the k-close is right when you get "the eyes." I'm not sure of every particular facial muscle that contracts and where we get this from evolutionarily, but it involves the girl squinting very slightly, her pupils dilating, and this overall shimmer in her eyes. Even if you've never seen them before, you'll know them when you do. So far, for me at least, that has been the only 100% indicator that a girl is ready for a k-close.

I look at the k-close not really as part of my game, but more as the culmination of all the game I had been using until then. If she's willing to kiss me, there isn't a whole heck of a lot I can do to screw it up. It's like opening the envelope at the Oscars to see if you've won or not. Most of the work has already been done.

hello
i would deff agree, you are already set on if the kiss will work or not now is the time to just go out and do it. kiss her first and see her response, if she likes it and kisses you back, then i would suggest the relationship comment. if you do it before, and she says no, you will have no kiss. once you kiss, the relationship part will just seal the deal for you guys. if she didnt like the kiss, dont bring it up. just talk bout what happened another time or something
best of luck mate im sure things will work out


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dont even think just do it!

How old are you?

My advice is always to escalate kino and kiss on a first date wherever possible. I really used to struggle with this so know where you are coming from but you need to just push through the comfort barrier and go for it. You have let this go on for too long without kissing her. If you struggle on the 1st date then you have got to do it on a 2nd date. The girl is meeting you again, she clearly wants to be touched and kissed.

This girl has met you many, many times. Pretty soon you will be stuck in the friend zone watching as someone ends up ball deep.

Always begin and end a date with kino. I would suggest going for a hug at the start then lunging at her with your tongue at the end. ITS ALWAYS ON.

oh yeah, its also important to get a k close on the day 1, because it sets the tone for day 2s

Um I'm in highschool, so I'm not sure if that has any effect. Also the first few times I went out and saw her was with bigger groups of friends. There's actually only been one or two times really where I went somewhere with her alone so far.

I have been escolating kino but yeah no kiss yet.