Greets everyone.
New to the scene and i wanted to say hello, give mad props for this site and to make my first post.
I'm gonna be rolling with my cousin for some drinks tonight and we have two women coming with us. One is his sister and the other is a mutual friend of ours and believe me they are both smokin'. They are both down for playing wing too we just don't know how to work it. Remember, new to the scene
wondering if anyone can point me to some guides on how to work this to our advantage. What are the rules when hangin' with wingwomen? Any leads to an article or any advice would be much appreciated.

/ambush

Wingwomen (typically called pivots unless they are actually sarging along side you) are very nice tools to have. I'd suggest you take his sister and he take the other girl (that way its not all creepy) and you basically just hang out and show lots of kino. You have your arm around her, you dance with her, you make her laugh. This demonstrates that you have value and so when you open a set with her on your arm, or nearby, then then you don't look like you are really looking to get a girl and its easier to get them. There is some very complex psychology that goes on behind the whole thing and it can be played many different ways, so I would recommend trying different approaches based upon what you are most comfortable with and see what works best for you.

One thing to keep in mind that iv noticed...
I have 2 HB 9-10's... the type of HB's where i can talk the bouncer into letting ME into the club for free because im making his bar/club look hotter... and i use them as pivots.
Anyways, while im dancing with my HB 10's and I over the shoulder open an HB 8 - the game is much easier.
and the one thing 85% of girls have asked me is if I'm involved with one of them - and THEY comment on the HB's beauty.
SO if you do have an HB 9 or 10 on ur arm. Make sure u have an arsenal of responses for this comment to DHV.

I'm not a pro - but one thing iv found that works well is negging my pivot (my pivot knows im sarging so she doesn't mind) as a response.
For example, "yeah she's gorgeous, but she is real ditsy" or annoying etc. Your target will always laugh and i feel as though it's a HUGE DHV.

Ace

Yeah, negging your pivot works well as a DHV.

dude.. wingwomen are the best because as much fun as they're having, if you're good then she'll usually give you the IOIs because you're not paying attention to her..there was another post about it on here but good luck

Wingwomen are great because as you interact with them other HB's around you will start to wonder why is he tlaking to her and not me...

For my above example it usually works if the HBS u are with are average... because then the surrounding hotter HB's will be like.. wait what does she having going on that i dont... when an HB question her own value before you open... you are definitely headed in the right direction.. you will know a HB is doing this by noticing conituned eye contact in your direction...

At this point like the others have said play on the kino... and enjoy your present company... to open I suggest if she is near the bar... walk by her to get the next round of drinks... and dont be in a rush to get served... say hi..and see what develops... if she was giving eye contact trust me something will develop...

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Man i really appreciate the feedback. The pivots worked out great. We opened some sets, got some numbers and my cousin even got an invite to walk a HB7 home. We all know what that would of lead to but our night was young when he got that offer and we agreed not to leave anyone hanging unless the target is like "pico" status.
Rye the kino worked awesome and i was demonstrating tons of value. I think my cousin overdid it some when she was palming my ass but it was all good.
Ace, i didnt get any opportunities to neg my pivot since the targets seemed to just engage in conversation and not mention anything. Probably my fault by not giving them a chance. I need to figure out how to work that in cuz i so wanted to neg my cousin. Maybe a formal introduction...doh!
This run I wanted to really just test how other women reacted. I think Shurgs nailed about the continued eye contact. Man i had multiple women in different sets that i would catch looking over our way several times. Who knows how many other times they glanced over while i was not looking. You know I have nice group of girlfriends that hit me up from time to time about going out and I usually just gracefully decline because i'm rolling with my boys. I think its time to flip the script and get them involved

/ambush