i am new but i dont consider myself someone who is unfamiliar with this game at all i came up with a routine that flows really well together for me and i find myself stuck at the actual opener so ill give you what i have so far and any suggestions for a begging would be very much appreciated. first off i created my own game im sure its been done before but i've never heard it so its original to me i call it the hand trick this trick is initiated after the formal introduction so here's how it goes

coop: hi my name is vince and you are
HB: my name is ________ its nice to meet you
shake hands
now the trick is to be as specific as you can so if she has really soft hands mention that if she has a strong grip mention that be very specific
(cont.)
coop: wow your hands are really soft
HB: thank you
coop:you know you can tell alot about a girl from just her hands
HB: oh really
coop: of course so lets see what i can tell about you
now this is a really good time to isolate and get into a locking position because it will get very personal from here
now here are the options i came up with for what you can say about her

if her nails are done: she is high maintanence (good time for a neg), she takes good care of herself, likes to look good

if her hands are soft: again reiiterate that she takes good care of herself, pays attention to detail, you can even stretch this as far saying she is always prepared

if her grip is really firm: business woman/professional woman, accomplished woman, you can even neg her here too by saying that she isnt very girly or lady like or however you want to spin it.

there are way more options this just gives you an idea of what i was thinking

although this will get you into the conversation your real goal is to go from there to a game many of you probably already know called the cube so this is where the conversations keeps going

HB: wow you can tell all that just from my hands
coop: of course i can

at this junction you can also go into a dhv routine or an appropriate story

coop: you know there is another way i can tell everything about you
HB: oh really
coop: of course

now at this junction you can be either behind her or in front i like to be behind it gives you a chance to break the touch barrier and begin a little light hearted kino

coop: i call this game the cube
HB ok
coop: lets play

now just run the cube

thats my routine so far but im struggling on how to really open a set or really get to the introduction point thats what i need help with i have been brainstorming for weeks now and i cant come up with anything to actually open with

_________________
women are the embodiement of fear, but i ask you now who better than us to tame the beast and overcome that fear

i like it, but you might think about running the cube first. if you just start out saying she has smooth hands she is going to think it is a line and you will become another afc. the cube builds interest and trust and then you can go into the other routine and get the kino. that could also be a good time to get her away from the group. Just my opinion. But I really like the hand thing. I might try that out.

I'm new here, but I have read that you don't want to tell the target your name until she asks for it or introduces herself first because it lowers your DHV. As for the hand routine, I kinda like that one and will definetely try it out.

There are literally a million good openers on here. All it takes is one good one. Remember, the opener only takes a few seconds to deliver. I like to go by the old saying..."KISS"...Keep it simple stupid.

Once you get past the opener, you have won half the battle. Now, get into your hand routine and the cube and go from there. Hope this helps!

Cheers and happy sarging,

Double D

I don't know. Just trying to think if I was a girl I might be a little creeped out if you pulled that off wrong. Obsessing over someone's hands can be weird.