It's not like I haven't been an ass before and gotten more lays than when I acted "proper" whatever proper is. I just got thinking about this recently.

The other day I was a complete ass to everyone. I made wise cracks left and right at the job and this seemed to get me more attention (including a few women) than had I been a "gentleman". So it got me thinking...

There was this chick online that I met on PoF, who is around a HB7. Needless to say I don't put much effort into women. IN my opinion if you are working hard to even get that HB10, you are working too hard. For those who would not understand, I'm just experimenting at this stage in my approaches anyway and looking over my historical blunders to see where I did good and where I went wrong.

Anyways, so I had been trying to spark up a converstion with this female, she would ignore most of my texts (we never really chatted before). However, when I was in my ass mode I decided to text her and was like, fuck it!

Me: Hey mother****** you owe me some damn money!
Her: You are hilarious!
Me: Yeah you think so huh? You won't be laughing when I come to your house with my flip flops!
Her: Oh no not the flip flops!
Me: You ever been with a black guy before?
Her: Are you black?
Me: From the waist down.

The conversation went on and on, only progressed into somewhat filthly talk, from both of us. For some reason, it worked! She gladly reciprocated my advances, gave me her phone number and proceded to tell me she wouldn't mind me paying her a "visit", where as before wouldn't really talk when I was asking her about what she did for a living, or the ever famous, what's up?

Further, I messaged this HB9 (not too many of them on dating sites) with the subject line being: "Have some F***ing flowers!"

The whole message basically negged on everything about her: how she "works hard", likes the "simple things", including her million tats (and how it was dumb she was getting more, but they looked hot on her), where she worked; you work in a skanky bar, like the smell of smoke and have cuts from broken beer bottles, nice!

She too replied to me, and seemed very interested. WTF, do women just want you to be an ass to them?

I am wondering though, for the most part have you guys found better results when you are a little more cocky? Or is there a point to where you can be too cocky and overdue it?

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That's a good question Ominuka,

I guess it really depends on what environment or girls you are targeting.

If I go to a club where there are a lot of HB9/10s, I notice the cockier you are the more attention you get. But not stupid cocky.... Whereas the 'nice guys' don't get even the time of day from these girls. And yes, some girls just like being treated like crap because everyone is always kissing up to them....THEY WANT A CHALLENGE...THEY WANT TO TRY AND TAME A BEAST!!! Which we all know doesn't work.

The girls in the HB5/6 range will talk to almost anyone that comes up to talk to them. Whether you are the bad-boy or the nice-guy... They are just happy that someone comes up to them.

The girls in the HB7/8 are the hardest to crack I think. I can't really tell what they are looking for. They are the ones that have been burned the hardest and put up the strongest fronts. The real B*tch front. And they wonder why they leave the clubs at night alone... The only thing that seems to work is to IGNORE them and let them approach you.

I have had even some grab my ass as they walked by and then I try to grab their hand as they do this...but you have to be fast...and when they find out they are caught, boy to they submit to you like crazy.

One to the topic with HB7/8, I normally just go up to a bar and then look over their heads at another girl down the bar while waiting. They typically turn their heads in the direction I'm looking to see what I'm looking at. At that point, I know I have just negged them without saying anything and I try to open then....that normally breaks the ice, but its a real hit or miss.

Good post all around...I see this all the time in the field. And sometimes girls want Mr. Right Now and not Mr. Right...so that also plays a factor too.

J-Dub

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Its better to be the predator than the prey.

You need to be a good player if your gonna be successful at the game.

Lol,that was a hilarious,funny ass post Ominuka,I can't stop laughing 'cause its true.

J-Dub made good point too.

I find that I have greater success when being an asshole or a jerk.I advocte the jerk theory in Picc-up.

When I play the smooth-PUA role,I have ok success.When I play the jerk/asshole role,I have super success rate.

Women are just tired of fucking stuck-up ass men who cannot lighten up the mood and be care free.[/code]

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