AMOG friend. howd i handle this?



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:59 pm 
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Last night I get a text from an old friend HB 9. She wants to hang out and since im under 21, we need a place to chill. I talk to my friend, who tells the same HB 9 that his house would work. HB 9 brings friend HB 6 and we go over to his house.

My friend has tight natural game. He f closes a lot of girls. I joke with him before the girls come over "you know where both gunna be hitting on HB 9. I just feel bad for you, shes been texting me for a couple weeks." He laughs and says "Haha, well head from HB 6 wouldn't be so bad." He texts an HB 6 and plans at her coming over after anyone leaves anyways. He is onboard for being my wingman.

The girls show up and he sits next to HB 9. He immediately starts to spit game to HB 9 for the next couple hours. I control the conversation from my seat on a separate couch. The kino and eye contact he is making with her surpasses what I was trying to do from the other couch. [This is one point I'd like advise on. How do you game a girl who is in such an active conversation and sitting side by side.]

My friend and wingman of the night made one of the biggest dick moves. After confirming to make sure things with me and HB 9 go smooth [which they would have without him] he goes as far as to go for a k close while I was returning from the bathroom.

I make sure HB 9 leaves when I do. At this point my game didn't go smooth enough to close so I tell her to meet me down the street. Keep in mind HB 9 was an old friend.

[How'd I handle this next part?]

I meet this girl and explain to her that I'm not attracted to her. She laughs and says "oh geez thanks" and I nudged her shoulder told her she was a cute girl. I tell her that my wingman was planning on having a girl over as soon as she left. Hes a dick, which I just realized.

Not sure if this was the most alpha way to handle this, but I wasn't go home letting this slide.

Appreciate any and all perspectives


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:17 pm 
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You are a douchebag. Not your friend.

You are a jealous prick, and are insecure with yourself. You are willing to lose a friend, who has his own place invites you to use it, and probably have been friends longer than with the HB9 chick? You should of brought TWO or more HB8+.

I use to get jealous that my cousin would hit on girls I was gaming, but later on realized that I had given my cousin social proof, and basically warmed up the chicks that my cousin would go straight into seduction with. It's like I would do all the work in attraction-comfort and he would finish it off with seduction.

Just don't give your friend social proof next time, I notice these naturals aren't comfortable stepping out of their social circle, and cannot cold approach girls. Next time you speak to a girl pretend and whisper in her ear that you just met the guy. Or do the proper thing and bring more girls so that he can game one on his own.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 3:54 am 
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Thanks?

I understand what you're saying. I shouldn't have let the situation head in that direction. I've known HB 9 for seven years, my friend I met last year.

The best definition of friendship "Someone whose got your back." He didn't.

My friend knew I was gaming her and offered to be a wingman. He apologized the next day and admitted he was a dick for hitting on her.

As for me telling HB 9 about him, pricks not the right word. Insecure works better. My issue was with my friend, not her. Me confronting her only let her on to think I'm attracted to her and upset with the lack of attention. Wow, that's pretty weak.

More assertive with the situation next time. 8)


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:43 pm 
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lerroy i was a little harsh, but I think you understood what I meant. What I don't really get is why would you expect him to WING when it is only 1 girl. She knows you already, and obviously would be more interested in getting to know a new guy that you basically gave social proof to by letting her know its his place, and etc...

Forget it ever happened this was a simple mistake. Better luck next time, and watch the adam lyons friends video.

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:47 am 
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Hi! That story sucks. I haven't been in a similar situation, but hopefully I am able to add some value.
I agree with phatryde on a lot of points: It sucks that you do the work in comfort/attraction and he "uses your work" to close, you've given him social proof and warmed up the girl(s).
I shouldn't blame it on yourself and I shouldn't blame it on him. Just learn from the situation and try to work out some way that this doesn't happen again.

I've once read a post from AFC Adam, so the following is his brains working not mine. Hehe except from re-typing it :wink:
An seduction has to follow a certain order:
Comfort
Attraction
Seduction
If you fuck up one of these things you will blow a guy out.

Example of my own:

We have:
- HBblond: A target I already gamed a little bit on a previous night
- An AFC with no game
- And a group of natural AMOG colleagues
HBblond was talking with AFC in the corner at the bar. The group of AMOG colleagues where partying, screaming and doing whatever they do :wink:
I spotted HBblond and opened a set near her to build pre selection.
After a few minutes HBblond spots me, I wave at her and she comes over to say hi. I lock in and tell her: "How cute, you brought your boyfriend with you tonight. It looks like he's all over you". Making him to available so he's f*cked.
I then start talking with HBblond knowing that my colleagues will try to AMOG me and try to profit from the work I've put in, since they can open her warm.
I then tell her something like: "This is such a fun night. I am out with my colleagues and I am laughing my ass of. They are all such players. Every night when they go out they always end up with another easy chick. It's hilarious, look at them go". I point at them and she looks at my group of colleagues.
This is the point at which one of them grabs her and starts dancing with her. I re-open the set I was talking with and I am laughing inside, because:
After 1 sec of dancing HBblond looks at me and sees me talking to a group of girls, she's trying to get back to me to continue our conversation. The AMOGs notice she's walking away so they grab her again, trying to dance with her. Which makes them fall into the category I've just described them as. She doesn't want to be seen as an easy chick so she walks of and re-opens me again. Oh.. and the AFC is still by himself annoyingly watching everything. Sometimes there are nights when everything just goes as you like :)

You can try to frame your AMOG-friend as someone who only hits on easy chicks for instance. Hopefully this will f*ck up his game enough so that you can game your chick. It's up to you to decide if you want to do this to one of your friends.

Also try to sit next to your chick. I expect that makes it a lot easier as well :)
Hope this helps! If you have any question: just ask!

Dutch Student

PS. The 'how to break out of the friendzone video' is really good by the way!


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