How do you win over and make friends with other guys? Not necessarily in a set, but in general.

How do you "sarge guys" and make friends? I've found a lot of material about meeting women, and I'm getting better at that. But I'm quite confused about how to act around/with men in order to gain their respect and make some friends.

I know that women are attracted to men who are higher status than them, but what brings two guys together as buddies?

How did you make friends with other people before in life? Most men and women form relationships based on common experiences or common interests. When I'm out I talk to the guys about sports, life experiences, what's going on around us, and other things. I talk about anything but girls! I don't want to go down that round and telegraph what I'm doing.

Something as simple as, "Hey guys did you catch the score of the Playoff game?" The just go from there, if there are girls in set, show them no interest, and talk just to the guys. If the girls start trying to chime in ignore it, and just focus on the guy. The guys will see you don't care about the women that are around them so they won't get defensive. Once you develop some rapport with the guy showing interest in the girls later is easy cause he approves of you.

The girls are #1 attracted because you are showing disinterest to them and they don't know why and #2 you are showing leader of men qualities by hanging out with the guys and socializing with them.

Hope this helps you out man,

Jon

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Call me socially inept, but I can't remember for the life of me how to make friends. It's always just "happened" for me, and very rarely at that.

Could you elaborate a bit?

Edit: I'm -really- working at my social skills from the bottom upwards... sometimes I wish there was a PUA style guide on how to just have fun and make friends--routines, or a framework of some sort.

the best way to make guy mates for me (age 19) is to just be full of energy, and introduce yourself and joke on about anything, take any opportunity up which involves meeting new people or socialising. theres no real 'system' , or shouldnt be, because your mates dont particularly care about dhv'ing and negs or any of that stuff, guys just want to hang out with people where theres gonna be some jokes, fun and banter.

my tips are,

- introduce yourself to people when the opportunity comes up
- be fun and energetic and joke on (don't tell jokes necessarily)
- offer them fun opportunities so they'll wanna hang out with you e.g. ask them to go out to a bar/club

I have this thing about being DHV that i want to stop. I used to grin like a moron when other people made jokes (back when i was super shy). Now I barely laugh at all, and I think they get a cold vibe from me.

When you're hanging out with friends, are you reserved or are you outgoing?

and how selective would you be in making friends, when you have very few right now?

if you really want to dhv with guys over a joke, dont be cold about it, add to the joke or comment on it, and you'll end up getting the good vibe from it

Thanks guys

Neither dude, when you're hanging out with your friends you're you. Think of it as an LTR kind of situation. There's no need to game, just be yourself and have fun. If you're the interesting active individual that you should be, it shouldn't be too tough for you. Keep your frame about you for the women and all but there should be no bullshit among bros.

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