I am having some really good success lately thanks to reading these posts so I'd like to thank everyone who has taken the time to post their advice on this site! The main roadblock I have been having lately is both online and offline--i have been accused of using lines and get the following from girls:

"nice line! where'd you learn that? haha"

or

"nice line, how many girls does that work on?"

this is from girls who are showing me a lot of initial interest. How can I transition from this and continue the conversation smoothly?

Thanks for your help!

it's a shit test

or

you telegraphed .. in real life probably by using incongruent body language. at online game you switched to a incongruent line --> when you talk about donuts you have to use a line about donuts ... you don't start a line about treehuggers when your talking in depth.

i would reply / tease neg/ :

'' i learned that from your last boyfriend( or girlfriend lol ) who dumped you ''

'' i learned that one in 3th grade, finally someone who doesn't get owned.... you only didn't noticed my other line ''

'' how many girls does that work on ? well i guess only you since your the first one i use it on''

transition ..

me : '' yeah that line well i used this line at somebody at the club ( tell story )

question ---- talk about club and ask which club she goes to / ask if she goes out alot.

she : ''talking about going out and her favorite clubs ''

Neg '' i don't like that club very much alot of underaged people go there/ i heard, i know this exclusive club you really have to see it''

you can go on and on ... just keep making small teasing negs....
you need to cutoff conversational threads at the right time.

story --- > question --- > neg --- > switch topic
and repeat

really if you talk like 90 % of the time YOU GET ALOT of results .... you don't have to neg but you need to keep your frame. being talkative is the most important DHV online and in real life. if you neg be sure to be teasing and funny -

the reason you ask questions is because you need information on her so you can talk easily in real life ( when you meet her ) keep stacking topics and lead the conversation.

cutting off topics is important .. if she goes like '' my ex was part-italian ''
you can either ignore her OR cutt of her thread like '' who cares '' you don't want to talk half an hour about her ex or bunnies.


my rules

rule 1 . lead the conversation
rule 2 . be talkative
rule 3 . don't get negged , pass shit tests - if your not comfortable talking about something you can tell her '' i don't want to talk about that ''
rule 4 . Never get angry or pissed ....

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love the advice! i'm definitely going to be using it, thank you!

I would add other options.

If you're 'caught' using a line just agree, amplify and echo it back to her. This is good if they have asked "How many times have you used that line..."

She has asked something subtly different so would have to answer differently. I would just ignore the question especially if she's asked more or she's written quite a bit. If she has just asked that only - then reply funnily "I learnt it from Casanova/charm school/the school of love...and I can see you've been there already"

Ignore those questions when possible.

"....really if you talk like 90 % of the time YOU GET ALOT of results .... you don't have to neg but you need to keep your frame. being talkative is the most important DHV online and in real life. if you neg be sure to be teasing and funny - "

I disagree on this one a lot. Talking a LOT shows too much effort. There's the danger of boring people and the very real danger of getting placed in the friends zone or being viewed as entertaining. Having the girl listen doesn't mean she's interested or will 'invest' in you. If you operate on a 50/50 basis she at least has to contribute to a conversation. Let's face it, if she cannot talk or will not talk for a bit she's not likely to be interested. If you've been talking to a girl for more than 10 minutes and she's still not 'pulling her weight' and not contributing then take it as a sign of little to no interest.

If you're careful and skilled you can lead a conversation while only contributing very little to it. But this has to be done right or you can be viewed as an interrogator , if too strong or therapist if too gentle.

good addition skypirate ! you got a good point
i really believe being talkative is important, awkawrd silences ( online or offline ) are considered a DLV. their should be some structure into the conversations of course

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I think where people can be more talkative is with other people so it shows you're a social man.

I'll probably have a few 'dates' line up this week and weekend so I will experiment by saying as little as possible and see how it goes.

I had a bit of a brainstorm about 'awkward silences' well what about saying "Shhhh! I can hear someone thinking..." and from Carlos Xuma "Well that was our first awkward silence, we handled it well don't you think?" Or you could mouth words at her until she says something and say "Thank god, I thought I'd gone deaf" And for the musically aware whistle the melody to Sounds of silence or Silent Night.
I just realised you can transition silence into a joke. After a while say "It's quiet like a library...where I grew up it was rough, the library had signs saying "Shut the fuck up"