As a new person to the game, i'd like to note that (after overcoming approach anxiety) i have very little problem attracting, most of the stuff i'm reading about, i seem to have been doing them anyway albeit with slightly less tact- kino and so on. HOwever, after this stage things seem to go well for around a month then just seem to fizzle out. basically i'm wondering if anyone has any ideas on how to stop things fizzling out with the next one?
thanks in advance!

I don't know if this helps you but the fizzling out is normally one of several things.

One possibility, you are no longer interesting to your target. Things become routine and you become boring and predictable to them. This is something you can fix.

If you become a very different person within that month from the time you and your target met, that will throw her off and things will fizzle out. You need to be consistent in all that you do, also fixable.

If she meets someone else, there isn't much you can do about it unless you become the attraction in her life. Somewhat fixable but you have to exert more effert in it than its worth. Move on.

If you are targeting girls just getting out of a relationship, you could be the rebound guy and nothing more will ensue. To fix this, stop looking for girls who just got out of a 'bad' relationship.

Ask yourself what you are looking for. Are you looking for a hook-up or relationship and adjust your routine accordingly along with venues you are prowling to meet girls.

Best,

J-Dub

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Its better to be the predator than the prey.

You need to be a good player if your gonna be successful at the game.

I think it is important to hold a strong frame through the whole relationship...One thing that I have learned being in a relationship and dealing with women in general is that the minute you become weak they will pray on you like a lion on a zebra!

Many of us will stand up to our girlfriend only when things are to late but what we need to do is speak out mind from the start...If you dont like somthing let it be known! and if she doesnt like that then to bad she can learn to live with it.

Another thing you need to learn to do is always be calm!!!! never freak out, try not to raise your voice ect ect....you ever watch the dog whisperer? caesar always says "You need to stay calm when you scold your dog! you might tell your dog one thing but if your freaking out they can sens it and wont listen"....that same thing is true with women or people in general....that one who stays calm is in control of them self and the situation.

I think the next question the OP may ask, one that I'm thinking, is HOW can you prevent those things ? Really apologise if this is thread hijacking, if so, J-Dub could we go to PM discussion ? I'd really appreciate the help.

I mean, it's hard to keep being creative, when you've been talking together for a month or so.

When does Game end ? I thought when you were in love, stopping yourself from becoming boring became a lot easier, but it really doesn't

I think I may qualify for the rebound guy, but I honestly thought that I had gotten to a stage much further than that - visited her house, spent a night with her, both said 'I love you'.

*sigh*. Bad times.

bravo .. these 2 points are the main cause...

girls from number 2 often appraoch you ..

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Im not sure that his problem is geting with girls right out of a relationship...although its not a smart idea because the odds that she will want out are higher I think mabey its his frame...You can have any women you want as long as you play your cards right. My current gf who I have been with for almost a year had no intentions of being in a relationship and had been seeing somone when I met her.

You play your cards right and you can have any women you want...On the other hand if you are newer to being a pua then mabey you shouldnt date newly single women until you have a better idea of how to deal with them?

thanks for all of this.
i have had many many epiphanies recently and realized that after around a month i revert to bad habits, and what woman wants that.