Mystery Method

Hey Chief,

I'm getting better at day game approaches now and I'm starting to collect some numbers. However, I feel like a lot of these numbers are goners. I want to be more efficient with my numbers.

My question is two-fold:

1. What can I possibly do to reduce flaking (Girl not responding to initial text)?
2. If a girl doesn't respond to a simple initial text, should I consider this as a loss already and move on? (Sending another text or even calling to give it another shot is bad?)

Some ideas regarding the first question:

- No texting but calling?
- C&F texting a few minutes later after approaching?
- Call her immediately after getting her number, so she has my number too and know who I am (caller ID). I can also check if the number is real this way.

Thanks,

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First of all, never just take a number. Exchange contact information mutually when you number-close.

There are two main things you can do to reduce flaking:

1. Time bridge.
Get her excited about meeting you later for something specific.

2. Only number-close girls you genuinely want to hang out with later instead of just getting numbers for sport.
If you are more attracted to them, and if you are genuinely more keen about hanging out with them later, it is more likely that they will reciprocate the attraction and the keenness, and will reduce flaking.

Woow! Big thanks man.

I didn't do all of those things you mentioned. Will definately incorporate it into my game from now on. I'll have to admit that I was accumulating numbers just for sport, haha.

But about my second question: If a girl doesn't respond to my initial text, is it over already?

Maybe some girls want the guy to put some more effort into it.

Anyhow, thank you for the answer.

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Don't let no one get you down. Keep moving on higher ground.
Keep flying until, you are the king of the hill.
No force of a nature can break, your will to self-motivate.
She says this face that you see, is destined for history.

Oh sorry I completely overlooked that question

Although it's kinda bad to just collect numbers for sport, you do need to have several numbers of women you are interested in for you to maintain an abundance mentality!

I say this because this is what I do when I text girls: I start off by writing a generic message like "Hey sexy" or "what are you up to right now" and I send that message to multiple women. Not all of them will always respond, but I really don't care because SOMEONE will usually respond, and I will actually forget that they didn't respond last time I texted them. So, I will still text them again later when I repeat this process while maintaining a good mindset.

What happening Chief,

I'm going to keep this as short as possible as I know you have a lot of other stuff to do. Here's my situation. Basically gaming a girl at my college that lives with her boyfriend. I didnt really talk to her until today when I was with my friend who is about to go out with her friend. All four of us talked and me and the girl (that lives with her bf) made a lot of eye contact. O and she use to live in Cali with another guy but they broke up. And I think she said she was engaged to this guy she lives with now. So I was wondering what advise you would give on gaming a girl that lives with her bf?

Adonis's Straw Man Technique:
http://charmingrogue.com/straw-man-tech ... -unveiled/

Best BF Destroyer I've found thus far.

Hey Chief

As a Zen-Buddhist Im almost sure you are familiar with karma.
Well, how does karma relate to pick up.

I used to be with girls like what you will give is what you will get.

Example:
If a girl is being a bitch, you should be extra nice to her so she will eventually become nicer to you

But since pick up, my mind tends to believe that if you are being a jerk to a girl she will appreciate you more.

Example:
If a girl is being a bitch, you should punish her for that and not let her get away with it.


How do you think about this Chief ?

Best Regards,
~ Steke

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Because girls don't like sex.. Yeah RIGHT!
Why else do you think girls have P*ssies

Karma is Hinduism. I don't think you can use the concept of Karma effectively in micro situations of pickup like that.

If a girl is displaying unfavorable behavior, the best option for you to do is to completely ignore it and don't even acknowledge her. Girls will repeat behavior that will earn them any sort of attention, whether it is negative or positive. Take away the attention and the behavior eventually dies out.

Chief - how are ya?

About 5 months back I went on a date with a girl - we'll call her B. Didn't think much of her, but she was on Facebook and I saw a friend of hers I really liked. I had a mutual friend who knew this girl (we'll call her A) and I manufactured a "chance" meeting.

I ended up with number and kiss close even though she was seeing some guy at the time. I tried following up with her by adding as friend on FB etc. but she ignored the request. I have since found out from mutual friend, she was worried I was going to say something that might have given her away on that night.

Fair enough. I left it a month or two and then poked her on facebook, she poked back, I sent a few PM's, she sent some back.

I then bumped into her in a bar a couple of weeks ago. I was on the phone at the time and saw her, so I gave loads of IOD and was basically quite rude. I also noticed she was kissing some guy. I went out for a smoke with my friend(guy - C) and she followed. My other friend who was female also followed out (D). So, I started flirting around D and then made my way back inside and left C and A talking.

I then noticed C and A at the bar... I went over and A looked at me.. said "Hope you have a good night" and then walked off. So I thought my mate, C, must have said something wrong to her. I asked, and he said she had been telling him that I was rude to her when I first came in, and asking was I with/trying to get it on with D etc. He also told her that she should just get my number and just get it on. He didn't know she already did. I am since thinking he may have told her I was with someone (I was currently gaming one of his friends)

Now, her friend B was in the bar too and was very drunk, tryin to kiss me etc. Dodged that one, but then another girl I am gaming, E, was also in the bar so I was trying to avoid her catching me trying to kiss A.

Still with me?

So, I pulled A in to the corner, and told her I was interested in her and wanted to take her out on a date. I asked her if she was going back to hers for a party (as there normally is) and she said yes, and gave me her address. She then said she figured I had my finger in a lot of pies and she wasnt sure about me. I told her again, not to go on what she thinks, and just see what happens - also referring to the fact she was kissing some guy. She seemed happy enough with this and then told me to text just in case she wasnt back home with her friends in time when I left.

So, later on I texted her with "Are you back yet? ... no reply... so I called round with a friend and noone in the house so I texted "Called round, noone there..." no reply... next day I added her as friend on FB and she accepted. I posted something on her wall... no reply... few days later I sent her a message on FB saying "So, you still wanna hook up or is it going to be drunken rendevous from here on in?" no reply.

So, my question is... do I remove her as friend for simply being a rude ass, but risk making her think I care, or do I keep her on and act like I dont care?

Hey Chief I need urgent help

Here is the situation: I accidently bumped into my crash from highschool who didn’t know I even existed back than and thanks to my social skills I number closed her and got her Facebook (thanks PUA Gods ). While talking to her I got some info about her and got to know she has a boy friend, now I have a thing where to know where what is my next move I tell a girl we should find her a boy friend and right after that I play sex marry kill, this way I know if she has boyfriend without being all serious and needy and disqualify myself (now I know you may disagree, but this is not the point of the thread).

So while talking I close her with the “social close” where you basically ask if she goes out clubbing and has cool friends, and if she does you just tell her to bring her friends and we will have a good time. Today was Wednesday and I invited her to a club on Friday because there is an event going on where I will have a lot of social proof.

Now my problem is that I usually right away move on if the girl says she has a bf because I’m in the stage of my game development where I know there are single girls who I can practice what I need to practice on them, but because this is a special case (HS crash) I feel like I need to walk over her boy friend and get her, also this is not like I wanna bang her and that’s it, I want her for gf material.

So from this I figured out 4 options that may happen by Friday:

1) She comes with her Boy Friend, should I bf destroy him, if so than what is the best way to do so (like I said I never done it before)? or do something else.
2) She doesn't come with a boyfriend and of course it’s easier to game her but I’m afraid her ASD/Conscience about having a boyfriend will kick in if I wanna have her for a longer run., how should overcome this?
3) She can’t make it to the club, so how should I take it from there, contact her, but she has a bf?

(ps I posted this on the main forum so please don't delete it )

Thanks Chief

Cheers

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Do that which fits your personal style.
Check the previous page of this thread to find a link to Adonis's Straw Man Technique.

Thanks that actually helps,

Listen I actually realized that the most worried I'm about is not dealing with her boy friend but with like if I go for the kiss she may give me the boy friend excuse or if I kiss her and then she gets buyers remorse cz of the bf?

And like if she doesn't come and later on I invite her somewhere, she may say something like, "mmmm I don't know if my boy friend would like me going to chill wit a guy....." ?

At the end she may or may not say this things or do them , but you know contingencies are always good....

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A Don Juan should be able to pull anything off and although I've found e-books on how to get back an ex-girlfriend I haven't found nothing on just getting back that special plate.

So far I have a few targets to experiment on and their interest levels range so it's not a clean body for a case study, some of these girls may jump all over any openings I make and the most important of these girls would probably just ignore me (the girl who really triggered me to try to figure this out)

A question about alpha behaviour.

Every mPUA says that they dont care about the past of a girl. And that the Alpha male wouldnt care about the things he cant control.
This is true.
But isnt a lowvalue thing if you date a girl that is kinda slutty. And had a lot of sexual partners.
I mean I know that if she's honest, respectable and perfect in every side of her, she's gonna make you happy. But isnt that an lowvalue thing to date a girl with a past like this?
How can you be an unreactive alpha male and just do what you want and do lowvalue things at the same time?
I'm just curious what's your opinion.