This opener lead to a # close. I selected my target and ignored her at first and made friends with the guys and other people in the room. Than I turned to my target and said, "Say maybe you can help me with something."
target: "Whats that"
Me: Ive been trying to get my friend to come out and party with me and meet new people but he's to insecure about his weight, and doesn't like to socialize out of his small group of friends."
target: "hmmm"
me: "Not that you seem like a particularly out-going person,,,
target: "haha"
me" "Well your here atleast. I guess that's a start. But he's 20 years old and has never had a girlfriend and is really afraid of ending up alone, but he never goes out. What would you say/do to him"

And there you have it. Your in. Just follow up w/ good body lanquage, be relaxed she'll know if your not. Have good escalation of kino, a little brush on the knee never hurt anyone. And just let it flow, not everything needs to be a canned good. Which most of the ones I hear have been used so many fucking times. Start doing you thing cuz if we don't stay on top of this it will run dry.

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Good thing. Congrats.

Props for sharing your opener.

Yeah all of Mystery's openers will be over used very soon, if not already.

thats a good one and actually a real one i could use because one of my close friends never wants to go out to clubs, he only hangs around like 5 or 6 people

Wow, great opener Moe. Completely non-threatening, plus the target can elaborate so much on that. Very nice!

But yeah this pua thing is getting to the point where most everyone has heard about it. With the ny times best selling book, "The Game" and Mystery's show on VH1, "The PUA" We're going to have to start being sneaky again. I can't count how many times I've heard, "Did you see that fight outside?" or "Do you floss before or after you brush" and the community favorite, "I can only stay for a minute but I need a quick female opinion on something. blah blah blah" Im challenging the communtiy to step up to the plate. The canned goods wont last forever so get out there and put your own spin on shit u know how I mean?

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well you are DLVing your friend... which intern DLVs yourself...

I don't think so, I mean... you're there socializing arent you? With your other friends, no less. I guess I never really looked at it that way.

I didn't give out any names. I just used the loose term "a friend." So there is no DLV for him, and as for me.... # close

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its still a DLV though, because your talking about your friend... As an alpha male, you wouldnt socialize with loosers... If your this awesome great guy, that your trying to promote yourself as, you wouldnt have friends who were loosers who couldnt talk to girls... Its rule one of the mystery method. You and all the people you surround yourself with are all the coolest most successful people in the world... Making you a great candidate for Survival and Replication

Being an Alpha male has shit all to do with who you hang out with, the biggest alpha male i know, hung with all the losers in school, and he got more attention from the girls than any of the cool guys. Alpa is a state of mind and a perception. Cool is what you are refering to. But i think a lot of people will be disagreeing with me.

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What a title!

I agree with Strictly Business.

It's a major DLV. Sure it opens conversation, but she's not admiring
your affiliation with this guy.

Harshly put, break it down.

"Hi, my friend is a loser. How would you help him?"

She's either thinking, wouldn't hurt to offer advice or, this guy wants
me to set him up with one of my friends.

I agree that it's not threatening, but it's definitely not DHV.

I think Moe was on point. maybe a few imperfections. but just cause you have an aquaintance who doesnt like to go out whos never had a gf, (no one said he'd never been with a girl tho it was implied) doesnt mean thats not a fine opener(with a little bit of edit) maybe say hes never had a serious girlfriend. or just say he doesnt like to go out,dont mention lack of girls. or he recently broke up with his gf. or maybe say his gf doesnt let him go out to parties without her. and is pussywhiped. get some social values into this. Moe do what works for you. you represent your self. she wont judge you based on someone you know and she only knows from a strangers story (i feel like hot girls always have fat annoying ugly friends and we all still think theyr hbs) . I wanna see more creativity like this. My brother texted me tonight from a club tonight at about 1 oclock EST that he used the "my friend still talks to his ex" opener. and she called him on it, herd it before. he laughed about it with me and i know its an old one but it still shows us the price of not being innovative. if every one of us just thinks of one good opener each once a month then that would ensure that this problem is eliminated. i challange all of you to come up with a solid opener by october 1st. im gonna try for two and maybe a routine. if we just share our thoughts, analyze and edit an improve eachothers ideas just like we all did for moes then we can all learn from eachothers mistakes isnt that what this is about. just be creative and women will respond. tell them something theyv never heard and ask them what no ones has ever asked them before

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Good call Rooks. And I do appreciate all the feed back it truely does help! And as for being friends with losers goes.... I love losers, Shit Iam one! And for you guys sitting there going im not a loser. You are. We spend a part of our day on a website where lonely guys get together and talk about how to fuck girls so we can feel not so lonely. If you were "cool" you wouldnt need the community! And besides that, those losers out there need help with this shit too! we all know what its like to be one of those guys! but not anymore, were taking it back! women have to validate thereselves to us now instead of the other way around and its great!

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ha ha ha moe i totally agre with th loser thing, guys are getting sucked into this comunity so fast its scary! and as for the openers that are said over and over again, their losing effect! its great to read a post where some spices it up!

all in all great post man!

white_russian

Regardless what anyone says.....its was a good opener that gave you a # close!! Improving it will only make it that much better and more importantly it is ORIGINAL!!

P.S: I was wondering who in this community took my name!!!.... you got that!