More power to you if you don't have to drink to have fun. Just be charismatic and fun and it'll more than make up for the fact you don't have a drink in your hand.

~Antithesis

Well, I don't drink either.

I went to a party and everybody offered drinks to me and I refused.

But I stayed pretty high energy and had fun to the point of people saying "Wow... and you're not even drinking!".

Just be proud of your non-drinking, have fun, and show you're cool and confident even without alcohol. That's actually a DHV. What guys have balls to approach hotties and just drinking water?

Imagine this scenario: Brad Pitt is sitting around with some friends. He doesn't feel like drinking. Do you think people are thinking, "That Brad Pitt, what a square." Of course not.

If you have utter confidence and high self esteem you can do whatever you want. If you're really gifted, people actually will copy you.

So, my money says you're in England. Am I right?

You know those bottles of JD, 350 ml?I have one of those that I was given over a year and a half ago that I've had maybe three shots from.

The don't drink rule is one that I find to be very... flexible? I think that's the word I should use. Let me explain...

None of my closest friends are drinkers (two drive, one is tee-total, one is just very tame) and I've just (almost) never seen the alure.

I had major social issues when I was younger, firstly because I didn't fit in *fat kid syndrome*, then as I got older, because I didn't drink all that much *unpopular boring kid*, then I went through a period of my life where I would finish a bottle of liquer each night *LTR*, now I'm back to the not drinking, but am the popular upbeat dude.

What my understanding of my life is now, is that I can drink whenever I want, I can drink people under the table (and have done on a couple of occasions) but I know that I don't have to drink.

I'm here to have fun and be social and I'd rather do it with a lemon and lime drink with full memory of the night when I wake up the next day.

The don't drink rule is (IMHO) a rule for the new guys. Don't drink while you're learning, nor for a while after you are done learning. Get to the point where you realise intrinsically that you don't need drink to be awesome (like me ) and even THEN you can drink but only when YOU WANT to in the amounts that YOU WANT.

We learn to fight so that we don't have to fight, but we learn not to drink so that we don't have to drink. Make sense?

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*snigger*

By drinking. Just sip it, though, but I know what you mean by "not fitting in." People like the pretense of being drunk to have fun, and noticing a guy having fun without alcohol kind of crumbles the pretense (and thus the FUN) for them. And you can't have fun by yourself, obviously.

But this is coming from a guy who, in his first post, laments that he has no social experience.

This reminds me of Fight Club, when Jack couldn't cry when Marla attended the support groups. Drinking alcohol is faking a terminal illness, expression is the fun, they are Jack, and you are Marla. But when you start sipping the alcohol, Marla disappears. You become Jack, they become the others in the group (like Bob and Chloe), and drinking alcohol becomes having a terminal illness.

I use to drink to excess then realized how much it was messing up my game. Plus I would get negative comments from girls about it later...so with that being said...

Suggestions:

1. Only have a few drinks, just so long as you are IN CONTROL...If you lose control, game over.
2. Be the guy who doesn't get drunk, girls dig that and who knows, you might be some girl's designated driver (to your house...smiles...)
3. Instead of a rum/coke or vodka/red bull, just have it virgin, nobody will know but the bartender, plus they will respect you because you are being RESPONSIBLE.

Always remember, that you must remain in CONTROL at all times, otherwise game over...Getting drunk is not being in control. Besides, who gives a rat's arse if you don't drink.

Game On...

J-Dub

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Its better to be the predator than the prey.

You need to be a good player if your gonna be successful at the game.

If you want to look like you're drinking so you can "fit in" get apple juice in a scotch or whiskey glass, or whatever the hell its called, it looks just like the real thing. If it's good enough for Dean Martin, its good enough for me.

- TD out.

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Send a blonde to me.
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Haha apple juice on the rocks. That's epic.

Still if you don't wanna drink don't drink. U'll actually become the center of attention. If girls see that other men are criticizing you and you survive it, it'll mean that you can be different and get your ass out of it.

I once was a bit ill so I didnt drink at the party.. some guy was constantly saying ahhh drink drink you pussy bla bla.
I just replied
"Dude, stop it. Why do you want to get me drunk so badly? I've heard rumours about you that you are a bit gay... and you're DEF proving them right now".

Girls loved it, he stopped. =)

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Hi, I need your female opinion on this...

I get this


...but some times you will get someone who just doesn't get it and really wants you to drink.

sometimes this is to AMOG you, sometimes it's because they have a problem with drink. If they are you friend, can be hard, but just make other friends. If they are cock blocking you. Well if they girl they are with also feels the same about drinking loads then you have to workout whethere she is the girl for you - and to be honest that relationship may not work in the long run if you both want different things. However there are loads of girls who are totally cool with not drinking - just go find one of them; they are easy to spot as they are generally slim (load of calories in booze) and not pissed off their heads.

You don't have to drink to have fun. I personally do haha but thats just me. Most MPUA's tell you not to drink because it sloppies up game anyway.

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I think if you're a beginning PUA it could help you a bit. Just drink less everytime till your 100% comfortable to aproach and have fun without booze.

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Hi, I need your female opinion on this...

I also dont drink but I do kind of find it hard when lots of ppl ask me
why aren`t you drinking?

The only cocky funny coment I could come up with is " Cause all the cool kids don't"

Does anyone else have any others, they would be most welcome.

I think it's so easy and cool to play it off, when you don't want to drink. I just frame it like they're trying to get you drunk, so they can sleep with you.

If a woman offers you a drink I'd say
PUA: "I know what you're trying to do..."
HB "Wha?"
PUA : "You're trying to get me drunk...so you can bag me home."
Then elaborate from there. Say all women are the same blah blah and maybe say some of the guys are trying to do it too.

Yeah a few people have suggested I have Red Bulls before I go out for the energy too.

I recently stopped drinking when going out, most is probably already said in this topic, but here's my 2 cents

pro's:
- More alert and you can really take everything in. (easier to work the room and notice who's the boyfriend, who's the AMOG, etc)
- Can think straight
- Probably the most important: Calibration, you can sense when it's on or when it's not, when you need to push or when you need to pull, when you can escalate, etc
- Not slurring on words

cons:
- Takes alot more to get out of the comfort zone (e.g. get in state)
- If you're not careful you can become too analytical and start to think too much, thus not have fun.


The pro's far outweight the cons. Focus on getting comfortable approaching, being sociable and having a good time. Joke around and laugh with your mates, if you're having fun and your mates notice this then how can they be dissapointed in you not drinking? The only reason people drink is to let loose and relax, if you can do this without drinking then it's not really a problem, is it?

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