just got a chicks number earlier today, unfortionately didn't really have time to talk to her... probably an HB 7-8

Was curious if I should hit her up right away, or wait a few days...

And if I should go straight into trying to get her to hangout or come party.... or just try and establish more comfort through the text game, since I didn't build any initial comfort or DHV when I opened and got her number? - and just text her for a few days...

Also if you guys had any specific openers or routines that worked particularly well I would love to hear them... thanks

Oh ya... and if it helps... I have talked to this girl before, we were in the same class and worked together once in a lab... other than that havn't talked to her much or had the chance to build comfort

I think I've seen some people say text them right away, something cocky/funny and that gets them thinking about you.

There are a LOT of good openers (and some iffy ones) in this thread: list-of-text-messages-game-vp253068.htm ... ien#253068

textin her right now... been a few since I talked to her last, and was just wondering... what do you guys do if she doesn't text you back? Be good to add to my arsenal

should I text her somehting else, perhaps another opener for her to bite

or

should i just text her tomorrow with a new opener, since I have no idea if she even noticed the last text or not

I'm pretty sure you give it a couple days at least, maybe longer. I think I saw someone's text for exactly that situation but can't find it...

1) Was curious if I should hit her up right away, or wait a few days... :
It depends when you met them and what kind of impact you made on them. I usually text same day if it's day game, or leave it two days with night game.

If you feel that you didn't make a very big impact on them, it's better to text sooner because it means you still have a chance to continue on the emotions that made her give you her number in the first place, however, if you wait, she'll lose those emotions and it'll become harder for you to make a good impression.

The opposite is true if you've made a strong impact, you can text the same day and pretty much arrange a meetup, or you can wait a few days and she SHOULD remember you, and it'll be incredibly easy to pick up the conversation again.

Also, with canned openers, it's very easy to make a negative impression on them, because most of the canned text openers are pretty lame, they'll get responses, but it'll be hard to go anywhere with those responses (in my opinion) unless they truly suit your personality. It's much easier to reference the conversation or something that will make her KNOW that it's you.

2)And if I should go straight into trying to get her to hangout or come party.... or just try and establish more comfort through the text game:
Text game shouldn't be used for creating comfort, neither should emails, they're for joking around, building attraction, comfort is better made in person or on the phone. You can do short DHV's whenever she asks where you are, or what you're doing, etc. but if you plan to see her regularly, that's more dependent on your lifestyle then anything else, it's not really a good thing to DHV solely to DHV, if what you're doing is a DHV, you can say it.

3) Also if you guys had any specific openers or routines that worked particularly well I would love to hear them...
Specific openers, etc. are really only good if you know that they have your number, they're a good way to spark a conversation then, but when getting first contact it can often backfire. Most of the openers are quirky because quirky gets a response, but if a girl gets a quirky message from a number she doesn't know, it's very easy to ignore it or to think that the guy is creepy.

Once I get the number the next day I text one word

"Hey"

usually they are curious and will respond because they have no clue who you are, something like "who is this"

"hey this is dave. I wanted to make sure you had my number, Ill call you tonight"

That's it. I don't say anything else or describe where she met me. Leave her hanging. I expect her to remember me cause Im a high value guy, you should to. Act high value and people will treat you that way.

I call about 8:30 that night, I think it shows you have ball. Normally they let it go to voice mail 1st call. Leave this message....

"hey this is dave, I'll talk to you later"

high value people dont talk to a machine. Many girls will actually call me back shortly after or send me a text saying they are somewhere and cant talk but whats up (these girls don't like talking on the phone, so text with them).

at this point if she doesn't call me back I wait a couple days. Text something relavant to her, like where I met her or something she told me in that context. I normally send a text little after noon and call about 8:30

You want to always be the 1st one to end it leave her hanging with text. Also if she waits 20 mintutes to text me back I wait 40, pretty much always double it unless she is texting back every 2 minutes. I always wait longer to text her back. Be paitent. Subcommunicates non needy ness. If she is not very responsive I go silent for a while.


Things I have noticed recently is don't get to cute. I've tried to us cute pick up text lines and they never work for me in fact they have blown it up a couple times I think from coming off weird. Just be a cool chill guy. If she liked you in the intereaction orginally she will respond.

some great advice guys.... thanks

So I we ended up text back and forth a few times... nothing too special. The last text I sent her had a small DHV and question... but she never texted me back? How do you guys handle this?

Was just thinkin ill text her later today, and act like it never even happened, but what about you guys?

Text openers by useing open loops ( Vin DiCarlo ) and getting a response:
- Whoa, something just reminded me of you
- OMG- reminded of you today, saw someone with the same energy, comes from the same place
- O my god what have i done
- Suprise!
- OMG so right about you. Just got off the phone w ( last text cut of intentionally )

" The making these work is that you should NEVER reveal the information that you are alluding to. "
" You can give out pieces of it while making her work for it, but you should never give out the entirety of the information unless you simultaneuosly create a new open loop which is even more powerfull than the first. "

[ Johnny B ]

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I used to use a lot of symbols like......... and shit like that and demonstrate a lot of interest in text. In my expereince don't do it. Just be totally chill and as a rule of thumb IMO and what Ive heard from some gurus, say as little as you can in text and on the phone. Just enough to get them to meet up with you. Otherwise you can screw it up. I've been very guilty of that in the past. Joking and sarcasim can really fail IMO just with written text.

Open loops are good, but if the chick doesn't want to talk to you anymore she will even ignore those. I've even said some of the stupidest shit to try to get unresponsive chicks to bite. "i like tomates" and random shit like that. If she doesnt want to talk to you she wont I've decide, that cute little stuff is tranparent. I say just be cool and say "hello" at this point to an unresponsive chick and leave it at that.

If you are going to try a line though with a chick that isn't talking I suggest.

"i've decided we can't get along anymore. I want a divorce. Who gets the cat?"

Ya havn't heard back from her since last night.... Think I opened her wrong. I sent "He cutie, random talking to you earlier, are you always that nice to strangers?" probably shouldn't have said the cutie part, but whatever.

Was planning on textin her back tomorrow with this routine... what do you guys think? at least to open then I can transition into a DHV routine, then ask her if she wants to party...

me: did i send u a drunken text last night ( i didnt even got out drinking the pevious night lol)
her : no blah blah
me: good because i've just seem this txt message in my outbox and i wasnt sure if i'd sent it or not.
her: (gets curious) wat was it about blah blah
me: well it was a drunken text so i dont think i should say
her: please etc.
me: okay u only get two guess
her: guess 1 "i love bananas" , guess two "marry me"

at this point ill wait a couple of hours or so she gets really curious and it keeps playin on her mind, so shes wondering what the hell was in that text.

me:both completly wrong
her : do i get a clue
me: it involves whip cream but thats all i'm saying


But I really barely know her, and havn't build much comfort... should I change the very last text that has something about whip cream to something a little more mellow or just use it?

when i get girls numbers they all get the same first text off me, normally the day after around lunch time.

me: hi its x, after you gave me your number last night you insisted that i text you as soon as i wake and now ive woke up. from what i can remember i had a good night, did you enjoy?

before i used to leave out the question about last night and got few replies but i think putting it in puts them on the spot to reply.

how much success to you guys get with texting? id say about 1/2 girls out of 5 (the minimum amount of numbers i aim to get in a night) i end up seeing.

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Ok so I have texted this chick twice.... some small talk for a few minutes/openers... but when I transition into a new question she never answers back. I don't know if she is playing hard to get or what, but she is conveying a lot of disinterest in my opinion. Wonder if you guys had any tips on where to go from here or how to salvage it?

I'm a huge fan of Vin DiCarlo but I don't know about these. They just sound like such blatantly canned material and cutting off a text intentionally; won’t it be obvious to her that you're doing this on purpose?

BTW,I Love texting but it can be a double-edged sword. Texting is non-committal form of comuication-meaning,chiccs would "flake" like crazy via texting. No girl wants to flake via phone nor in person so texting provide a great avenue for them to flake,"Hey Jim,I won't be able to meet up as planned." Texting have less emotional & commital value so a girl would lose no sleep over flaking on you or turing you down via text.[/code]

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Great advice. I'm often upset about the purpose of texting as I usually just text random stuff to girls even though I get good responses. So now we know texting is about building attraction instead of comfort ty for the advice man