I've had some moderate "success" with online game, particularly on PlentyofFish

I got one of those "method" pdf books that I won't plug here, but it was $30 or so and it really helped!

Anyway, I say "success" because I have yet to transition any of these girls to offline meetups. I have 4 girls I am talking to with some regularity. My favorite part of online game is that you can pick and choose types girls that you haven't been meeting offline. I number closed all these girls over 1 month ago but I am not sure where to take it.

1) Older girl (She is 40, I'm 28 )
2) West Indian girl (she claims to be a part-time model, she has a modelmayhem . com page that she showed me, she's cute but not gorgeous)
3) Brazilian girl (she is an au pair in connecticut, I'm in brooklyn so there is some distance between us)
4) Teacher (she is just a regular cute girl, but she lives with her parents)

Anyway, I'm hesitant to meetup with some of these girls. I've taken my time with these girls but I am pretty confident I am not in "friend-zone" danger because I kept the conversation very flirtatious and constantly talk about sex.

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone on here has transitioned to offline and get attraction at a really high level. I'm trying to think of a way to go from online to meetup but everything I think of kinda puts me in the "dating" frame and I think that will kill attraction. I really feel like the 40 year old is DTF but I'm not sure if I can just suggest sex... not quite there yet. Anybody made a smooth transition lately?

one month of emailing/talking but no actual meetup is too long. i think you might need to make a move or else some of these are going to fade out.

Hey I have the same problem I've met a few girls on myspace and pof but I always try to transition too early I think. It's so hard to build comfort over the internet and if you try to get them to meet you too early it's pretty much done because from then on she thinks you're a creeper for trying to meet her in person so early. I'm not sure how to get them comfortable enough to go do something without taking so much time you get friend zoned. And from what I've found 90% of the single girls on myspace actually have bfs but stay single status...not sure why that is.

because they are liars

well, about the meeting too early/late thing. I've never been able to close a date on my first email, i have been able to do it as soon as the 3rd email though which for me is pretty quick. actually that one asked me out.

point is that you just have to feel it out and make a judgement call on how the conversation is going whether or not it will be too creepy to ask her out. i usually email a couple of times, then number close, then date close on either the first or second phone call. but i still stand by my opinion that one month is too long on the internet to not have met in person yet.

Hi Guys,

lots of little bits I'll comment on.

If the girls are on a dating site then they are a bit flaky or weird using it not to want dates. Yes some girls like the attention and love to turn you into a cyber-friend. However if you're clear that you don't want that then it's a simple matter of screening those that persist. Set yourself a guide as to how long and how many mails you'll take to move it offline and it it hasn't happened by that time ...let her go and move on. In my opener email I always suggest meeting. Why? Because it let's them know I'm not willing to fuck around to do email tennis getting nowhere. Been there , done that and it's worse than LJBF'd in real life.

Typically I use a 3 email rule to get a phone number or real life meeting setup. I do not spend ages agonising over each email. I work to the process in IID and already have templated mails for things which can be easily adapted in a minute or two. I only allow a deviation from that rule if the girl mentions something she cannot control. I agree with h00ligan and 1 month of email is far too long. The way I've been doing it typically will take from 4 days to 2 weeks to get a date from initial contact.The sooner the better. I think the 3 email rule should be treated as sacred.In all my experience the 'troublemakers' have always gone on longer than 3 emails.

To the OP,Metrotech, you do not need to smoothly transition imho. One way is to say that you love chatting/mailling them but prefer to do this face to face and suggest meeting. To be honest if they start throwing up obstacles they are just online fantasists and you need to let them go and move on. I would double check what their profiles say, it can be too easy to overlook that they have mentioned they just want a cyber-chat thing anyway.

One issue which occurs is when a girl says things are moving too fast or something similar. In my experience this is usually a smokescreen for very controlling behaviour and don't be surprised that if you do meet this girl that she will be very difficult. Let's face facts guys, if a girl is saying she needs more info about you after 2 or 3 emails and a comprehensive profile what is she talking about? At best it is a little fear at worst it's attention seeking and controlling.

Skypirate great info! Maybe you can check out my new post I need help with a milf i met on myspace!

Thanks for the comment Chillin, I am just relaying my experiences to help others.

I'll check your new post. Would have been handy to post a link!