Hi guys. First of all I would like to thank you all for helping everyone out and making our lives a bit less frustrating to say the least!
..Also I'm not too positive that this is the correct place to post this topic, if not, let me know.

Now that that's out of the way, onward with the situation I'm currently in:

I have to start by saying that, despite the fact that I can be quite charismatic and overall a likable person, I have had absolutely no success with girls whatsoever. This has ranged from shyness to some massive streaks of bad luck. I know a few routines, and how to act around women, it's not that.. but more on that later, first a little introduction...

About 2 weeks ago, I was at a party with a group of friends, and some gals ofc. Teased and fooled around with one, and completely ignored the other. Pretty much one of you guys' worst nightmares when it comes to technique and what not. But I left a positive imperssion nonetheless. All went well and we had a blast. The girl who I had ignored most of the night ended up giving me a nice warm hug, and saying that she liked me before she left.

Fast forward to the present time: Me and this girl have flirted almost none stop via msn and txting. Keeping things exciting, push-pull, and escalating our conversations. Yesterday night she said she would think some naughty thoughts, yadda yadda yadda, you've all been there, I'm sure.

Now next friday, I'm about to go and meet her. And I'm pretty sure things will go quite well for me then.. "SCORE!" I hear you think, but alas, this is where my problems, and my question for you arrises. I'm nearly 22, and I haven't had sex, haven't kissed a girl, I haven't even had the chance to hold hands with anyone!

Basically what I want to ask you guys, is what advice do you have for me? I know about 90% of you will most likely say "Just go for it!" but I've "Just gone for it!" before, time and time again, and I can't push myself to dive in and do the Macarena with someone. And quite frankly, the older I'm getting, the more awkward I feel about it all.

Any last minute advice about the situation in general is also more than welcome. Even motivational speeches, or zen mastery. Basically just speak your mind guys, I'd appreciate anything you guys throw at me (steer clear from piano's and stuff though).


Oh, and did I forgot to mention the girl has a bf?
*waits for dramatic ghasping to start*

Well, he's basically an asshole to her, and she's going to break up with him sooner or later.


Anyway, thus the wall of text, a cry for help and advice, has come to an end.
Let me know your 2 cents! And thanks in advance guys. I appreciate it. =)

All I will say is that when you meet her next friday, remember to do kino and lots of it. The bf thing doesn't really matter if you're sure she's going to break up with him sooner or later. In terms of k-closing and even f-closing, just start slow and then ramp it up. That's how I started. At first your nerves will kick in, your mind will be all over the place, but we've all been there. Just remember this simple fact that I found out - "women want sex as much as men, they're just generally less forward about it." And remember be fun!


Phoenix - "Women want sex as much as men, they're just generally less forward about it."

Thanks for the quick reply =). The ramping up will be a touch cookie. Specifically because I'll either go with some friends to the movies (which is unlikely.), or stay at her place. The downside of the latter, to me is, that I become way too focussed on building up kino. Where as in public places it just comes natural... Hmm maybe I just need to find the off switch and party hard lol.

As for being fun, that should be no issue luckely. It's one piece you could say I'm a natural at, thank FSM.

Like you already

Now, don't think the girl you are meeting is going to be your saver etc. You have sexual anxiety, I would recommend for you to go right now and download Sinn's Natural Attraction where he has CD in which he talks about your problem and how to overcome it (it's called ELAM (Escalate Like A Master)).
Listen I will tell you straight up if you are totally committed to changing your life and overcoming your sticking point the fastest way to do it, is to LOWER YOUR STANDARDS. This way you can easily overcome you SA (sexual anxiety) fast and easy, get a girlfriend who is even a 6! This way you will have a chance to practice all you described you never done in the past, listen even if you don't think she is that pretty and not worthy of holding your hand you gotta believe that she is the first step because of her you will be an expert at kissing having sex whatever, when it comes to hotter girls, in you future development...

Do you understand what I'm trying to get at?

Also for Friday you can already start practicing, like the previous poster said, start with kino and just become a touchy guy, do that with all your friends, incorporate your game into your everyday life. Lastly I know from own experience you just gotta break the berriers one at a time, like if you never hold a hand, if you hold it once with a girl, next time with any other girl you will have an ease in doing it...

Cheers

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Haha *high fives* Just saying what everyone’s thinking. (or should be thinking:p)

I absolutely get you yeah.
I’m definitely going to kino like a madman, that’s for sure. The concept doesn’t scare me, nor the action itself tbh. It’s mostly being afraid of getting a negative response… And now that I think about it, that doesn’t concern me all that much either anymore since I’ve started doing some self improvement. The human psyche is an interesting thing haha.
I think it’s just been hard-wired into my system over the past years. (I used to be a proper geek, total lack of style, and the likes.)

Now I just got to learn to say no to girls more often. She kept nagging me to talk about my fantasy’s I have for her, on IM. After 30 minutes I caved in lol.
I get the excitement and all, when you discuss it. But 1, she was still at school. And 2, I much rather say it in person, or more preferably, show it to her.

Oh well, it’s a learning process =).


Thanks for bringing me back on track!

Well, I'm finally back home lol. Didn't got to see the girl at all!

Turns out she was spending the day with her bf instead. She told me she was sorry and stuff, but I still feel a bit dissapointed.

I did, however, got to hang out with 2 girls instead, one of which is kind of my ex. (although we were both too shy to do anything apart from watching movies and hugging.) Ended up gaming her quite well. Even though she's already engaged. So nothing came from it. But I still gave her a good time, and that's what counts the most imo =).

After that I went to the movies with a group of friends, and met 2 new girls. One of which was quite attractive, so I took my chances and did some magic on her.

She did walk extra slow towards the seats at the cinema. I'm sure that's because she wanted to sit next to me. But unfortunately a gay guy shouted "IM SITTING NEXT TO HIM!" and skipped towards me and sat down next to me instead lol. During the movie, I did notice her copying a lot of my movements, which is a very good thing. I should've took my chances, but better luck next time I'd say.

Anyway, thanks for the advice you guys gave, and I'll certainly put it to good use, next time I'm meeting up with her. Or any other girl for that matter. =)

Hahaha, funny with the gay guy, keep up the good job!

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V3nu

Oh and I completely forgot to mention this: She started a conversation on IM yesterday, saying she wanted another 'story' (we started gradually roleplaying more and more since a couple of days. I did this, because then, to her, she could subcontiously justify her feelings for me. Since we keep it kinda like a 'soap opera' thing).

She kept dropping these lovely subtle hints, like "sliding into my window" (in Dutch, it looks less upfront then in English, so I'm glad I noticed it right away. Notice the SLIDING and MY though .

Shortly after, the good stuff happened (even if I'm not all that whoopteedoo about the online part of it), and she said she was increadibly horney. She ended up coming =).

At the end of that night, she said she has never done this, and I should've considered myself to be really lucky. (I'm glad she isn't slutty hehe).


Hmm this hasn't got anything to do with sticking points anymore haha.. is there any other place I could keep you guys updated without cluttering this side of the board too much?

Watch out not becoming her intertainer!! , and also when a girl tells you: "tell me a story; something funny" it probably means you are not putting in enough value and she wants some input from you and she is unconsciously qualifying you on it


Mmmm I wish I could translate many social skills that acquired thru PUA to other languages that I know with ease lol... well I guess it's just practice


Don't consider yourself lucky, you did everything you had to do and it worked, and it will happen to you again and again, it's not luck

Go to the Field report Section and Lay report Section and post there, depending what happened

Cheers

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V3nu