Hey fellas,

I'm fairly new to pick-up (bout 2 months) and I've already gotten some sick results both with women and everyday life BUT...that was back in Australia!
Now I am in Germany and most likely gonna stay here for a long time, so I know that in due time I'll have no worries, but I'm hoping someone can give me a bit of a booster!

My German is getting better every week but is far from good enough to just open any random set. Now I know, "half the chicks probly speak English anyways" and "Style had no trouble F-closing chicks that hardly spoke a lick of English" and "Oh you're and Aussie, German chicks love Aussies" but nonetheless I'm still experiencing some AA and it's driving me crazy!

Do any of you fellas have any advise for me as to how to grow my balls back?!

Cheers!
The Machine

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Start off slow. I would even go as far as forgetting about pick up for the time being. Begin by approaching random people (male and female) and asking questions like asking for directions or beginner stuff like that (this could be done either in English or German depending - its up to you).

Also find the nearest pub and just introduce yourself to random people there - tell them your new to the country and need advice on whatever you need advice on (this will allow you to open conversations without the pressure of wanting to k-close or f-close someone because that's not your objective here, which is what I meant by forgetting about pick up for now)

Another thing to try is to find some wingmen near where you live. Just google it and you should eventually find somebody. Your wingman/men may even be able to help you get over your AA.

Eventually after you've gotten over your AA, you can return to pick up.


Phoenix - "Women want sex as much as men, they're just generally less forward about it."

Hi MateiTheMachine

I understand your situation as I'm an expat Brit in the French speaking part of Switzerland. My French is barely any good and no way could I sarge using it. Luckily a relatively high proportion (I think I've read it's 50%) of the people here can speak English.

My own limited experience , as I sarge a lot online, is that it is just another 'obstacle' in the way. Assuming you want English speaking girls. Firstly find out where English speakers hang out. Is there an Ex pat network you can tap into? You can just go with the approach of I-am-a-new-foreigner-in-town-help-me-out sort of thing. Open in German with basic questions and see if they speak English. If not or their English is bad too just move on. I think if you accept that your approaches are statistically less likely to be successful because of the language issue then I see no problem. You could of course open in English assuming they can speak the language and if that gets a puzzled look or poor response then move on.

For myself I was a bit weary of opening in limited French to find out that most of the time they couldn't speak English or their English was as bad as my French.Which is why I prefer sarging online.

Start to listen and observe people more. You'll probably find that English speakers are not that shy and you'll overhear them.

One thing you will probably start to develop intuition as to who is an English speaker or not. Body language, clothes style that sort of thing seperate locals from others. I'll try to find my relevant post on this. Found it and text is copied below. I've bolded the most important bit imho

"I was travelling on a train and this cute blonde girl was listening to music on an ipod and sort of doing a little dance in her seat and mouthing words to the songs I guess. We flirted quite a bit by smiling at each other and giving on off eye contact. During the journey she got out a book - an English language thing about learning Italian. I live in Switzerland and it is very difficult to tell who speaks English or not just by their looks. I thought the book was a dead giveaway. I realised I could not let this opportunity go and I decided to approach her properly when I got off the train. She got off at the same stop and I managed to catch up with her and walked side by side. I started off by talking to her in English and she gave me a puzzled look and asked how I knew she was an English speaker. I didn't answer and she got more interested and I started to move away from her. She was virtually running after me and wanted to know how I knew. I've never experienced that before and I quickly crumbled and told her I had spotted her book. The conversation slowed down and faltered about 2 minutes later. I'm certain I could have held out longer before answering correctly."

Oh, continue learning German.If you're staying in the country you'll need it.

Hope this helps.

Hey thanks fellas,

that was really quick of you and very helpful.
I'll def be trying these things.

My best mate is coming next month and he's the best wing (the guy approaches anything with a heart beat) so that'll def be great help too.

Thanks again but nonetheless pls post more stuff if you have more ideas/tips

Cheers
TheMachine

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Hey Machine,

I do strongly advise getting with other English speaking expats. For me it was a sanity saver, typically they will have language exchange groups, have lots of info and advice, discounts for events, classified ads and organise social events. Of course you could sarge girls at these events but probably more useful for befriending and social proofing.

Another piece of advice is that once your language skills have built up you need to expand beyond the Expat social circle. Nice as it is...it does become very limiting.

I'm not going to teach you to suck eggs here are a few links which may help...

http://www.toytowngermany.com/ Yeah it's a crap name but looks helpful

http://www.toytowngermany.com/


http://www.expatica.com/de/main.html

http://www.expatica.com/de/main.html Another which appears useful

http://www.expatexchange.com/index.cfm use the dropdown for Germany

http://www.expatexchange.com/index.cfm

and of course Meetup
http://www.meetup.com/cities/de/
http://www.meetup.com/cities/de/


Another piece of advice. When you're in a new country you can change your 'identity' you can become a new person.

Thanks skypirate1965

those are actually very useful, especially now that Chrissie's around the corner and all my German mates are doing stuff with their families!

I know what you mean by becoming a new person in a diff country and i've totally started doing that. I come from quite a culturally rigid family, Russian living in Australia, (oh i'm only 20 btw) and back home i really had to be a different person at home and a different person around my mates, which was hard to do. Now that i'm by myself i can just be me, or better yet the me i want to be

Thank again

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