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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 7:38 pm 
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This may seem weird for adults but being a teenager i have seen so many girls I'd like to approach but they're with their parents and i have no idea what to say. Any idea's?


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Haha this is tricky, expecially when you know nothing about the Girl and her parents relationships, but do different stuff and see what works for you.


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Ha i hate when this happens, usually at malls and such. Just think what would be going through your head if your daughter was getting gamed in front of you lol. I say wait until they are separated, even if for a few seconds, then go in for the kill. A situation like that would need some direct game because her parents could pop up at any moment.


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IDK what would work with Dads, but Moms are just like young girls/BFFs most of the time. You can normally win the moms over to being on your side by gaming the mom and daughter at the same time... Say something like comparing them as sisters or something and when they say, "No, I'm her mother." or "No, she's my mom!" Say something like, "Wow!" and act surprised. Then the mom will probably take a step back, and let you go at it. I've always had luck winning over moms first... but, idk I could be wrong... More experienced people care to critique/add in?

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Make sure if you talk to the mum and you neg your target you do it in a VERY funny way... xD

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I have what you are looking for! this will only work in shops but it works really well, iv tried and tested it :)

Lean over to the girl, and say very quietly, i really want to talk to you but you dad/mum looks really scary. its seems AFC, but its really funny. Make sure to be confident and playful, Then drift off with her. Girls love it and i have even started talking with the parents.

Try it, it works a treat!

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Yeah I really like Young Pua's suggestion. Opening girls with their parents is tricky especially when you go for the close. You basically have to have non-sexual phone number close.

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You approach the same. Typically the dad is gonna know your intentions the second he sees you two talking. Unless you get the mom involved in the conversation, she's going to be thinking the same.

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Hey guys, great question,and young PUA, great opener.

I have studied up on Stealth Game, by Gambler and here are a few things I would try.

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Walk up behind her, and not tap, but lightly guide her sholder around, like a friend would do, get her to turn around and say "Oh! I'm sorry! I thought you were my friend Lisa for a second!"
She will laugh and you say "Well, this is the point where i would usually walk away, but you've got an interesting (style, or look, or vibe, or energy, et c.) about you. I'm (name)." (put out hand for her to shake and introduce herself)

or... even better

2) Prime the approach - make eye contact and smile and wave, or point, or do somthing so that she either smiles and waves back, or acknowledges you somhow. If she turns around, or gets a bad look on her face- do not apporach- if she does wave back or somthing, break out of the set you are in with a hug or somthing, then walk over to her directly. she WILL have a smile on her face from the approach primimg. Her parents will then be 70% sure you know her, whether it be from school, or church group, or whatever. Then, as you get to her, put out your hand, or go for a hug, while you say "Hey! How have you been?" (loudly)Then the parents will be 100% sure you know her and will disingage. You can then start gaming her. However, if the parents look at you funny, or ask who you are, just put out your hand for a shake, say "*with a smile*Hi, I'm (name) *look to the girl* "This must be your (mom/dad)!"

Instantly gets rid of parents.

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I had a similar situation & this is how I did it : fr-closed-target-in-presence-of-dad-mom ... 48051.html

The Key is RESPECT RESPECT RESPECT & RESPECT ! Be respectful towards the father, parents, brother or even friends that she is with. I generally am very respectful towards people & their private space. I don't need to manipulate, deceive, lie, use NEGS (As Mystery terms it) or even act arrogant. I rely on my confidance, & strong frame, and fun nature to make approach & 'win over' a set - You'll get there after you have been socializing for sometime... my way of doing it is in the link, it might help you clear your thoughts.


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Hey guys, great question,and young PUA, great opener.

I have studied up on Stealth Game, by Gambler and here are a few things I would try.

1)
Walk up behind her, and not tap, but lightly guide her sholder around, like a friend would do, get her to turn around and say "Oh! I'm sorry! I thought you were my friend Lisa for a second!"
She will laugh and you say "Well, this is the point where i would usually walk away, but you've got an interesting (style, or look, or vibe, or energy, et c.) about you. I'm (name)." (put out hand for her to shake and introduce herself)
Im sorry but, i strongly disagree. A farther would not appreciate and guy rubbing him self up against his daughter. You have to respect the status of the farther. The dad has been there in his old days and he doesn’t want some guy hitting on his n daughter. You have to break your self down as that guy that hits on girls, that’s why I like the second one :) your no longer a threat if you no her already, you will just have to be careful that she complies with you, and plays the game.


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I read a PUA book once and you should...

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Walk up behind her, and not tap, but lightly put your arm around her shoulder around, like a creep would do.

or... even better

2) Look at her from across the room, make yourself look dumb by waving, hope you get a good reaction, then open!
This is what i essentially got from reading your post.

It doesn't matter if it looks like she knows you, like a previous poster stated, the father isn't going to take kindly to any typical approach.

Another thing, it makes it awkward for the girl because she has to watch where she steps (verbally) to not go over her parents boundaries.

Seriously, you can't do these things.

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The reason this works, is because you can then just say that you thought she was somone else. Its not going up and hitting on her. Plus, there's only 3 ways this wouldn't work.
1. She is like 12.
2. Her dad was in a shitty mood to begin with.
3. She was in a shitty mood to begin with.

plus, you're not "rubbing yourself up against her" you're guiding her shoulder, like a friend would do, with like 2 fingers, for god's sake, you can be 3 feet away and still do this.

People will generally not freak out on you for talking to them, especially if it's believeable that you thought she was someone else.

These people aren't out to get you, they don't know you're a PUA. They think you're a guy who mistook her for somone else, then ,because of you're afable nature, tried to have a conversation.

That being said, I probably wouldn't do that one, i would do the familiarity opener. And with that one, you don't need her to "play the game", if you act like you've known her, she will actually think she knew you, and about 10 mins in, on average, when the parents have let you isolate, or are being friendly, she will ask questions like "Hey, did we go to school together in 3rd grade?" or "Do you know (whatever)?" none of this in an interrogative way, just to see if she knows you.

Honestly, no one has ever freaked out on me, parents or no parents, with either of these openers.

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