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PostPosted: Tue Dec 08, 2009 4:45 am 
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It does indeed haunt me, but I'm still not convinced either way about what she did being wrong. I mean, she kissed a guy...but it was during a break. I had every right to kiss another girl during this time. I just didn't/couldn't.

Gabzlora, could you explain how what she did was wrong with this in mind?


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Long time reader, first time poster. I apologize for the long post, but I really need some input on this one.

I am in a bit of a emotional/psychological predicament with my relationship. I met my current girlfriend about a year and half ago. We lived together for most of our relationship, but due to extenuating circumstances, we were force to live quite far away from each other this past August.

Prior to then, I had most of the control in the relationship. She depended on my for everything, and honestly, I sometimes abused this. She cried frequently, but would always end up saying I was right and she was wrong. Despite me always asking her if I she was happy/if I should change/etc., she reassured me that all was fine and that she loved me.

So for the first month of our separation, I did not do a very good job of keeping in touch. We talked frequently, but I was rarely friendly and expressed unhappiness with the relationship. But one weekend about a month into it, I was extremely busy and did not call her. She called me and said she couldn't do this.

At first she phrased it as a break-up. Then she said she needed a break. All the while saying it wasn't me, but her. She needed to "grow" and become dependent. Fair enough. We agreed to disclose anything we did with other people. A week into our break, I asked her if she had done anything. She said no. Personally, I was relieved because I had been to emotionally leveled by the girl who was essentially obssessed with me calling it off that I was in no position to do anything with other women. It was not a break for me. So, two weeks in we got to see each other in person.

Then came the whopper - she told me she had made out with a guy 3 days into the break. She said she was drunk, regretted it, etc. She also said she felt she needed the break because I had treated her like shit for so long. Finally, she said that doing this reassured her that she loved me.

We've been together since. But here's the problem - I can't decide if I am alright with what happened. She took a drastic measure without ever letting me know anything was wrong, made out with another guy while I was still emotionally crippled, and then lied about it.

Every time I bring it up, she gets angry. But, I need to bring it up. I need to know that I can trust her, and honestly, I have no idea if I can in light of all this. Clearly, her calling it off, doing something so soon after the break, and then lying about it hurt immensely. On the other hand, she said it helped her realize how she felt.

What do you guys think? Am I a fool if I trust her? Should I take this as a sign and try to move on? I have never been so confused about how I feel.

Any input would be appreciated. Thanks in advance
YOU DONT HAVE A VERY BIG PROBLEM TO BEGIN WITH ! Yes you heard me right. Firstly ALWAYS Treat a girl right, NO PHYSICAL OR VERBAL ABUSE. PUAs LOVE THEIR WOMEN.

Now for your situation, from what I read, this girl likes her man to be in control, emotionally, physically and basically her life. There are women who don't like men taking a LOT of control but this girl likes that and that is the reason she was attracted to you in the first place.

She kissed another guy, Yes sure, what do you expect. There are a lot of great guys out there, a lot in this forum alone. You expect her not to be attracted to someone while she is on a 'break' from you !!! So, for the part on whether you could trust her again, I think she hasn't done a thing to break your trust. Yes she lied to you because she is weak and didn't want you to think bad of her. She blamed it on alcohol for the same reason. So if I were you, which would never ever happen, I would tell her that I she lied to me which I never want her to do again, and if she ever does it than she would loose me for ever. And continue with the relationship being ME. But this time I'd take some leasons on how not to be a complete jerk to women but be the kind of jerk that women are attracted to.

And mate, she didnt call you all of a sudden to break off, she wanted to break off probably 6 months back but had the courage to tell you now.

If it was me I wouldn't date this girl again but if you really want to than set your boundaries as mentioned above and continue your relationship.


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Marc,

I definitely see where you are coming from. But with that in mind, why exactly would you not date her again?


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Back to you.
im not saying what she did was wrong (right or wrong is a relatively question). But, you need to get out there and experience outside even if it is hard at the begining you said you were not good picking up girls and that scared you. IM AFRAID YOU WANNA BE WITH HER NOT BECAUSE YOU LOVE HER OR CARE ABOUT HER BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE AFRAID OF BEING BY YOURSELF. right now you are confused about what you wanna do and you are asking question questions here in the forum and it is because you are confused emotionally.

I understand how you feel, ive felt that way in the same situation and I understand it is hard to let her go. But an outside perspective sometimes is better than oneself because it doesnt depends in an emotional level but as a whole. Give yourself sometime and dont rush it. tell her the decision you made and dont let her crying or tantrum change your mind. Your a fucking man and you wont change your opinion because you feel sorry but because whats best for you.
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