Escalating Kino: My biggest sticking point



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I keep getting LMR whenever I bring girls back to my place. This has happened at least 10 times already! What am I doing wrong?
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2009 1:20 pm 
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My biggest sticking point is escalating kino. I am good at starting kino. I'd usually find my way by lightly putting my hand around a girls back, or even holding her hand for a bit longer when introducing myself (to shake hands). however, i do not know how to escalate it. some people tell me i should ask her for a drink and hold her hand on the way to the bar, but i think kino esclation should take place way before she's comfortably enough to go have a drink with you.

Anybody have tips on escalating kino from the hand on back phase or at least know to create a situation where escalating kino will be simple? I cant get past the light taps and its really hurting my game.. I am assuming that theres no dance floor and the interaction is both of you standing face to face.. (ASSUME that there's no dance floor,..)..


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Hey man,

I know what you mean that it can be tough to figure out how to kino and where to kino. The main idea is you want to kino early into your interactions and kino often! I included some videos that have helped me and I hope will help you.

In the first Gambler talks about how when he speaks he uses a lot of hand gestures to make it easier to kino with women. In the second video I posted Sinn talks about using the shoulder as a great touching area (around 6 minutes in), pay special attention to that.

Basically, like Gambler I put my hands out in front of me when I talk. It makes it much easier to touch. When I do touch I start touching arms, hands, elbows, shoulders, and back mostly. Then there are some of the more advanced areas that Gambler talks about as well. The key is get in the habit of touching people as you talk, and become that "touchy feely" person if you will.

Hope this helps you out,

~Jon


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Thanks alot for that piece of advice.. I never linked kino to hand gestures before, so i am sure its bound to help...


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Thanks alot for that piece of advice.. I never linked kino to hand gestures before, so i am sure its bound to help...
Not a problem! :D Believe me it helps a lot. Like Gambler I didn't gesture much and once I got in the habit of gesturing it was so easy to kino. I mean if your hands are in front of you then they are half way to the girl already and it doesnt make it weird doing a lot of quick touches. Then as she becomes more comfortable with your touches you can let them linger a tad bit more.

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Eliminating the player vibe, excellent piece of advice in there!

Awesome Video's!


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good stuff. thx


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