Hi all..

Hope im in the right section, so here goes..

Girl in my collage, took us a pretty long lime to get to know each other and start going out. So I've been out with her out of school three times, and im pretty sure she won't forget any of these dates. That kind of dates that you see in the cinema, and all girls dream about.
To get good feedback im just going to be honest and say,
I haven't had the balls to kiss her.

A lot of times she says stuff like we are couple. And we've talked on the phone alot during nights. That way she's indicating that shes interested. But problem is that she dosen't "touch" me. Shes not "all over" me like other girls i've been with. It's "only" words.

Now im no casanova, nore a pick-up-artist. Just found a girl that I liked and would want to have a good relationship with.

So any tips how i can make it easier for myself to kiss her. With her making it easier for me too. How to escalate or w/e you guys call it. And please don't give me the answer "just do it". I know thats the best answer but apparently im pretty bad applying that to real life.

Im used to girls making the moves, guys call me lucky. I call myslef stupid, cause apprenlty i can get alot of girls, but instead im just waiting for them and there for not been with so many.

btw; theres a lot of boys chasing this one!

there you go .. thats your answer.
alot of boys chase her but nobody kiss her lol, she wants someone to kiss her.

some girls just don't kino because they had trouble with guys, some guys get different ideas when girls touch them - that's why some girls just don't touch guys.
life fucks you ... or you fuck life .. your choice

are you intimidated ? are you gay ? i mean wtf you have the balls, she doesn't have balls to kiss you.

there is no guide or manual to kiss , it's a personal and natural flow of timing and emotion. YOU NEED TO KINO before you can kiss, that's for sure.

just have a good night and kiss her almost at the end ( don't kiss her the door of her house ) you have to do it.
There is no failure ... there only is delayed victory. keep that in mind

if you don't kiss her .. i will ..... im serious - you need to K-close
you need to touch her hand - arm - knee but do it subtle and build it up.

when you offer her a glass of water - wait until she grabs it and put your other hand on her hand and ask ' you got the glass firmly ?''.
kino her with subtle moves .. moves without telegraphing sexuality or neediness.

touch her leg with yours ( knee to knee when sitting next to her etc ) do arm pushing with her or some thumb wrestling.

rules :

1. NEVER BE wimpy about touching her and about getting touched
2. never say sorry and never ask permission to touch or kiss her
3. do subtle kino , ask her to hold something for you and touch her hand when you take it back . or compliment her jeans and touch her on the knee
9 simple short touch - don't grab )
no you don't want a relationship with her... STOP EXPECTING things and stop imagining. BECAUSE when you want something you often don't wait and more often you will get frustrated.

release you expectations and expectations of outcome , and dont treat her liek she is hot or whatever - she's just a person like anyone else.
have guts to say stuff.

only decide about getting a relationships when you've kissed the girl , maybe she only wants sex and not a relationship. be aware

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I have little to add to Lodewijkp's post, he's right.

You have to kiss her, else you lose her, for sure. Is that good enough motivation yet?

the more you wait, the harder it'll be..

First kiss is like sex, you need foreplay..

get comfy with her, with a hug, then dont let go of her body..

or like the AK dude said, make her do something where u will get in contact..

then ESCALATE:. she will love it.. then look her in the eyes man....

I once had it hard with kissing this girl..

We were laying on the bed..

i just touched her head, caressed her,, touch her lips with my finger..
she started sucking my finger..

but damn, i couldnt kiss her..

I told her, lets play a game:
i took her necklace and put it in her mouth, then i leaned down, and removed the necklace with my teeth, but i didnt kiss her..

I moved back.. i notice she didnt move / get discomfort.. this meant she was ready..

i put the necklace back in her mouth.. remove it with my teeth..
and then i stayed like 5cm from her mouth.. didnt move..
just close with her mouth..

then i kissed her

was good man.. And she said it was unforgettable, and that i tricked her a little bit hehe.. but she liked it

we r gf now

Thanks for the help guys...

I went with talking to her as she being my gf instead, as if we already kissed and been a couple for months...
Telling her stuff like "hey dont do that, i dont want my gf doing that". She just followed along. Now she was "escalating" the talk, so i just went and got closer and closer (doing kino unconsciously). So the Kiss-phase is accomplished.

Though i'd say this was more me beeing "real" instead of "gaming".

so how was the kiss

the hard to obtain kisses are always best