Since I'm just a student and my High School involves only guys, the only way we usually contact women would be through Yahoo Messenger.

The thing is, once I try C&F and Messenger, I ALWAYS screw up in the end. Guys, do you think I should scrap tactics and SS online and just wait for those real moments?

Another question, where do you necessarily apply these tactics? Do you try them on your female friends who you've known even before learning seduction or do you find new targets and avoid your old female friends? As of what I've experienced, most of my old female friends just tell me I've become a jerk and leave me and I've lost about 15 friends, I feel real bad about this.

Thanks, guys, really appreciate any reply you can post.

The thing with msn and all internet chat is that sentences of C&F can be misunderstood. So try to avoid those sentences and try not to seem to arrogant remember is Cocky & FUNNY.

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Ah thank you!