Alright man, just make it clear to her that you would never tell anyone what happens between the two of you, I mean even when you're escalating things with her and she says something like "we shouldn't be doing this" - for one, don't stop - but either play stupid i.e. "doing what?" or "we're not doing anything" when you obviously are.

or you could take a page out of Ross Jeffries' book and say something like, "you're right, I shouldn't be (insert sexual action here)" or "we shouldn't be (insert sexual action here)" as you do what you say you shouldn't be doing. Make sense?

I dk man, I have mixed feelings about this thing. From all her pain in the ass craziness, by now I feel like I would just want to "fuck her and duck her" but at the same time I just don't condone those actions. I say that you should just keep doing what you're doing, but don't stop when she gives token resistance; and if she totally flat out stops you - remember what I said about the difference between, "stop," and "STOP"? - then just totally freeze her out. Personally I would just completely blow her off cause just from reading this she's driving me crazy. And if I kept playing her little game I would come across looking needy or desperate or something like that.

Anyway, I'm glad to hear you made a move - way to go buddy - and she didn't reject you which is awesome. If you keep playing your cards right, I think you could totally get with this chick, as long as it's still worth it. Anyway best of luck and hopefully you nail her soon.

- TD out.

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Send me a brunette,
Send a blonde to me.
When I unwind, I'm colorblind,
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I stopped reading at this point. It's bad enough that people try and use the game to get some other guys girlfriend. Going after a mans WIFE, thats fucked up.

Dude, even with how much fun this is, you should RUN LIKE HELL. this is exactly the kind of chick that becomes a freaky stalker. She's already shown you she has poor judgement (getting involved with a patient), is capable of risking her whole life over sex (which is intoxicating to both of you, but is crazy), and is not willing to let you go. As soon as you pull away, she comes back. Good in PUA in a club, BAD in this situation. I hope I'm wrong, but it's going to end badly. You can get good sex elsewhere without the crazy.

Yall are right, she's clearly insane and not worth the time. BUT, I've invested so much time into this already I really don't want to eject... stupid of me, I know.

Question: what do you think I should do about the last appointment situation? I told her this next appointment was our last appointment. Should I stick by that, should I say that we maybe should just take a "break" (she's the one who brought this up last time when I said I didn't think I'd be coming back)?

Also this conversation came up in a gmail chat, wtf does it mean? Remember that she has already told me as a reason that we shouldn't get together that I get bored of girls quickly and I'd get bored with her if I had her.

"Therapist: I'm just sayin. I don't enter a room without improving it before leaving
Me: hahahahaha
now you're givin ME coughing fits. and i'm not even sick.
[a little later in the conversation]
me: aight you haven't improved this room. i'm falling asleep.
buenas
[we talk a little more, then]
therapist: I feel better knowing I'm boring u tho. makes me feel safer.
me: whys that?
therapist: don't want u getting caught up
me: me either. so its all good.
therapist: finally we can agree
me: killin me
therapist: what? why?? don't wanna have to read into that
me: you talkin in riddles frequently. me too.
therapist: I SOOO do NOT! You don't as much as you want to hahaha"

What the hell does this mean? I think she's trying to get me to say i'm NOT bored with her. But should I indulge in this or not? Will it just stroke her ego or will it get me somewhere?

Right, it's a challenge--"I dare you to be different from my husband/all other men and NOT get bored of me". Actually, when you think about it, she's gaming you, no? Think PUA theory--there are two ways to hook someone--make yourself seem valuable (DHV's, preselection, social proof), OR get them to invest in you, so they have something to lose. She used #2, brilliantly--you value her opinion as a therapist and woman, so you want to prove to her you are better than she thinks...etc, etc. Think too about her IM conversations and think about "cat and string" theory--she does that very well also.

Try an experiment--tell her you don't need the last appt, you'll mail her the money, nice knowing you. I guarantee the answer you get isn't going to be "ok, good luck with your next therapist".

Linckia, I completely agree! She really reminds me of this girl i used to sleep with back in the day, who had more game than any girl I have (had?) ever met. Anyway, this is to be expected, right? She IS a psychologist, after all. Game is her profession.

I think I'm going to go in to the appointment, give her the money, and say see ya. Does this seem like a good idea?

I think the part of you that likes the attention wants to go in one last time. It's a decision you have to make: if you go, there will be drama. She likely won't just take your money and say "see ya". If you don't go, there probably will be drama online, but at least you won't have to see her. If I were in your shoes, I would think really hard about your choice--get involved with a known lunatic for some hot therapist sex, or use your pua skills to find some hot HBNotCrazy sex. And get a new therapist pronto, because this woman is going to make you need one

Good luck!

Linckia has some good points. And I would venture to say this women has suffered some kind of abuse in her past. I realize part of her hesitation stems from her professional position but this excessive game playing and going back and forth highly resembles those who have suffered from abuse. You have two options, stick around and deal with the insanity it brings or run, because it won't ever end. EVER.

And just as a side note, if you were hoping to stop therapy and then resume a relationship with her just know that APA coe of ethics highly frowns upon relationships (friendship, romantic or otherwise) with previous clients. But if the two people just can't help themselves, they should wait a minimum of 2 years after the therapy to begin the relationship. This is because sometimes intimate feelings can be created due to the close therapist-patient relationship. Having that gap allows the feelings to simmer down. And if the feelings are still there after 2 years then it can be assumed they are real and not artificially created by the intimate discussions.

Sorry Ego, I think you should just bail. This woman is too crazy, and it's not even a good idea in the first place - I know I've been trying to help you out, but let's be honest, it's not a good idea - she's got too many hang-ups and she's just messing with you. I don't think you'll ever tap that hot therapist ass, and it's probably not worth all the insanity on her part.

Blow off that last meeting, give her a call and tell her that you can't do this and there's no point because all you want to do when you're around her is to have sex with her and if it's not going to happen then you don't even want to do put yourself through being right there next to her and not being able to touch her.

Or something along those lines. She'll either A) tell you that you shouldn't come then and to just mail your money or B) tell you to come over. In case of the latter I would suggest you take a condom because she'll know full well what you want when you get there.

That's your last ditch effort and if she doesn't want you to come in for the last appointment, realize you're a free man and walk away without any regrets. You will have done just about everything you can, and you will have learned an important lesson - not every woman is worth gaming.

It doesn't matter if you had spent a year trying to game her, putting time into something that fails is not a loss, its a lesson.

- TD out

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Send me a brunette,
Send a blonde to me.
When I unwind, I'm colorblind,
They're all the same to me."

I'll post my details later but the jist of the situation is that she told me yesterday she's really interested in me and she wants to hang out outside of the appointments and we're done with the appointments. I'm supposed to hang out with her today, we'll see what happens. I've got a pretty good picture of the situation finally..

Ugh so good news finally! Went out on a sort of a date with her. Ran game like a normally one, and ended up sleeping with her. I'll post more details later, some of it is game-relevant. Anway the sex is off the hook... And now I understand what her deal was much, much better.

She's not as crazy as I had thought, but still obviously has got issues. But in an attractive way. Or maybe I'm just one of those guys that loves girls with issues. Scratch that. I AM one of those guys that loves girls with issues.

Well, hey, I'm happy for you man. Looks like all the hard work paid off.

- TD out

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Send me a brunette,
Send a blonde to me.
When I unwind, I'm colorblind,
They're all the same to me."

I just read this entire post, and kudos to you Ego.

You sure did take me on a crazy rollercoaster up and down through this entire subject. But as long as you are happy.

Oh My God

Bigass props to you man

fuck, tell us more please. Damn, how did you pull that off ?

Ur awesome btw

daaaaamn...

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Because girls don't like sex.. Yeah RIGHT!
Why else do you think girls have P*ssies

yea seriously props man. i just finished reading the thread and had no idea what would end up happening!!