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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 2:39 am 
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I just got back from a party :) it was awsome. I consider myself a great pua. (a bit cocky but yea :D )I opened a lot in the last two weeks although I have a rough time problem(im a soldier at the IAF )
I f closed a girl in my base...had and having lots of fun..back to the pickup after a long time.(few years...army sux)

anyways just a lil advice.
I saw a 9 sits at the bar with 2 UGS today , obviously opened her table ,nagged her , etc etc...meanwhile I talked to one of the UGS. later that night the 9 danced with me but just a lil bit then she said one of the UGS had a crush on me and she thinks im cute and she cant do this to her etc etc..I said "yea I think im cute too...oh , and you too :) " and she laughed and said yea I do but shes my friend etc etc..how to avoid this crap ? I mean I dont wanna focus on the target while opening and gamin a set , meanwhile how do I avoid the UGS from being attracted to me , a thing that led to that crap..help ?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:08 pm 
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LOL you have to game the target not the obstacle.
Just be nice to her friends, neg the target, then talk to her and game her.
When you a3 in front of her friends and IOI her, her friends will probably back off.
And don't neg the obstacle.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:37 pm 
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mate I didnt game the fat biatch .. im into pickup 4 years now...not my 1st set ..
she just told her friend I look hot etc etc
I didnt ever IOI her , the opposite , I did IoI and got IOIs from the target
still got that shit test, been good handling it , till fatty fat saw us , n target left .
just want some opinions bout this situation...what if theyre good friends and hottie wont "take me " from fatty ? :o


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:00 pm 
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IMO it should not happen in the first place. Which means you did something wrong there. Maybe you talked to much to the fat friend.
Try to SOI her in front of fat bitch and isolate:"I like your friend. Are you ok with that?" - "Uh, I guess..."


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:35 pm 
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IMO it should not happen in the first place. Which means you did something wrong there. Maybe you talked to much to the fat friend.
Try to SOI her in front of fat bitch and isolate:"I like your friend. Are you ok with that?" - "Uh, I guess..."
1o1 yea I made a mistake..next time ill look less hot :D
thanks for the your answer though ;)
again I did IoI the girl prob is that she had guilty concience about her friend. I need more of an NLP answer here.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 27, 2009 8:39 pm 
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Sorry if I'm a pain in the ass.
But, again, NLP is not the answer here. Is not what you should do when it happens, it is what you should have done to prevent it.
If the target feels guilty it's because you did something earlier in the set which made that happen. So yes you can do something about it when it happens but leave that alone and think how to prevent it.
So don't get into this by:
1. Don't talk to much to ug, you have to talk to the whole set not only to one or two obstacles and that includes the target. So yeah neg the target and talk for 1 or 2 minutes to the whole set then talk more to the target and after 3 min in go for A3.
2. Ask(after A3 of course) the fat ugs "I like your friend. Are you ok with that?" they have no choice but to accept this.

It's all within the model.
And if after all this you still have problems with this "guiltiness" thing then it's just a shit-test. Just continue plowing.

I would like to hear some more opinion myself. But, I think it's all it is.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:46 pm 
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Sorry if I'm a pain in the ass.
But, again, NLP is not the answer here. Is not what you should do when it happens, it is what you should have done to prevent it.
If the target feels guilty it's because you did something earlier in the set which made that happen. So yes you can do something about it when it happens but leave that alone and think how to prevent it.
So don't get into this by:
1. Don't talk to much to ug, you have to talk to the whole set not only to one or two obstacles and that includes the target. So yeah neg the target and talk for 1 or 2 minutes to the whole set then talk more to the target and after 3 min in go for A3.
2. Ask(after A3 of course) the fat ugs "I like your friend. Are you ok with that?" they have no choice but to accept this.

It's all within the model.
And if after all this you still have problems with this "guiltiness" thing then it's just a shit-test. Just continue plowing.

I would like to hear some more opinion myself. But, I think it's all it is.
You're not a pain in the ass mate , I appreciate your willingness to help!
of course the best solution to a problem is to aviod it at the first place lol , thing is what do you do when it already occured.
I agree with you though.
Btw - I dont use a specific method.(A3 B2 ) etc..I have my opinions and beliefs and I base my game on em'. :)


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