They say it's a rookie mistake, but sometimes the only last-resort option when closing is giving out your number, if the target(s) don't want to give you their number for whatever reason. I'm sure others have been in this annoying situation, but my question is, have you ever been called or messaged first after this happened?

Today I was out and about, which obviously means turning on the charm, doing some sarging and meeting people, when I came across a sitting three set and busted out the cologne opener (a recent favourite of mine - popped some on my wrists earlier in the day). Worked well off the bat, heck one of them told me to have a seat with them, then I did the usual transition into general rapport and the topic of going out on the weekends, which of course makes it easier to close more naturally and indirectly in the a group situation.

However they resisted when I tried to get their number, even when I calmly tried to plough through, and then they wanted my number and said they would be in touch during the weekend. 99% chance this was a straight-up lie, right? Anyway have any clever way of handling this kind of obstacle? For the record they were all very good looking but very friendly... maybe I accidentally gave off too much of an obvious pick-up vibe?

In a group situation it's almost always a better idea to isolate a target before asking for a #, it eliminates any "mother hen" around her, and becomes more of a personal interaction.

If you haven't won over the entire crowd around you, an individual might not give you their #, not because they aren't interested, but because their friends aren't.

In group situations, if asking for a number, ask for a multiple. I know this seems really stupid but it's great for a few reasons. Even being like, Hey you guys were a lot of fun, *throw phone the table* you should punch your numbers in.

I know it seems stupid to do, but it's worked for me, and here's why. If one is attracted and the others aren't, it's a jealousy thing, your saying you want all their numbers, but she wants you to have hers, it's likely for her to take it and punch her number in, and HAND YOU YOUR PHONE BACK. even if the others haven't done it.
- This has happened to me, I honestly almost laughed it was so obvious-

I know it's not the BEST advice, but it's something.

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Solid advice, actually clever in terms of the psychology behind it. Keep in mind this was a day-time situation with a group of good friends, and they were already sitting down together, so I don't know how I would have isolated anyone.

By the way, when I used the best friends test, they said someone else recently said exactly the same thing to them. Now I don't know if this other person consciously knew about using this little routine, or any PUA stuff... but I just said how it might have been a coincidence. I stayed cool, but that might have affected the trust a bit.

I've had success with getting calls or texts from girls when I give my number, actually.

I usually do it when I didn't reach the level of interest to close. If I wasn't able to get to talk to a girl as much as I'd like, I may just say before I'm about to leave that I'd like to talk to her again so I want to give her my cell number. It really depends on the type of girl you're talking to. One who's smart, independent, they may prefer having the power to initiate. Just remember, you're the dominant one, you just gave her the opportunity to contact you. Never give your number out like you really want her to call. Act like you're doing her a favor by giving her a way to reach you, as if you only had a dozen numbers in your phone.

for the record, The girl I last did that with I've been hooking up with for the past week and she's fuckin insatiable.

Exactly,^

The few times I've given my number I made it appear as if I were doing HER A FAVOR.

Well, the weekend passed and no contact.

If I ever run into any of these girls again, I reckon I'll immediately confront them about it in a very casual, sarcastic way, purely for my own amusement... think Larry David from Curb Your Enthusiasm. "Sooo, I seem to recall a promise about getting in touch with me. A pretty adamant, serious promise. Something about trust us... we wont forget... you know, stuff like that. But I don't seem recall receiving any kind of contact. Funny about that, don't you think?"

And then we'll laugh and become the best of friends.

Or not.

If I can't get a number- I try to change the subject and bring up a past thread. Later down the interaction I might try again using a FTC- or at least get some sort of email address or Facebook, etc.

I don't know- giving my phone number out doesn't work for me as it puts them in control, when I like to control the outcome.

Just a thought.