So today I went doing some direct day approaches. Just the ordinary: "Hey, I saw you from over there, you're really cute bla bla"

My approaches have always been like this. When I started day gaming, I was getting some nice results: few number closes here and there, some of them failed. But at least all of the girls listened and were "moved" by my little compliment (cute).

Over the time I got more confident in delivering these direct lines and I was feeling less nervous.

The big problem:

Today, all of my direct approaches (8 in a row) failed BIG time. I couldn't believe it! My opener was just the same. I could get their attention for the first few seconds, but right when I said they were "cute", they turned their back on me and walked away like total bitches. They even rejected my hand when I was about to introduce myself after telling them they looked cute. I think they perceived me as the cheesy pickup guy.

Any idea what's going on here? I only know that my attitude today was different. Like I said: I felt real confident and relaxed and couldn't really care for the girl's reaction, since I'm getting real comfortable now doing these direct approaches.

It seems that having a somewhat nervous/excited attitude is what the girls like. But that's just weird. I thought being fully confident is what makes these direct approaches good. So do I have to act dramatic and nervous again??? I don't want that pussy AFC'ish attitude

Also, I'm pretty buffed and tall. So maybe the combination of being the big guy with a "I don't care how this approach turns out" attitude is a little too much for direct day approaches? Pfff... I really need help on this one. 8 failures in a row

Thanks,

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Personaly for day game id go indirect and save the direct stuff for night time in bars. Using i direct opener like that can be quite a shock when she's not expecting it. Therefore the girl does not know how to react to it, which is why they maybe walking away. Also if ur doing it with alot of confidence it can look rehearsed and she may think shes the 5th girl to here this line today from you.
Whereas when u where a shy guy saying it, it come across more genuine. (to her)

Thanks for the input Jon Paul.
Yes. Being rehearsed is exactly what I think too, and as a result, she won't take my approach serious.

I do want to stick with direct game. It's much more powerful and congruent with me. I'm still not sure what to do now though... Acting like a sentimental drama queen from now on?

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I think you need to aim higher if you plan to stick with the direct day game. An hb7 might be shocked by a guy coming onto them in a public setting but an hb9 wont be. She might be more receptive and with the added confidence you are showing it could raise you integer level in her eyes.

Maybe you should change the word "cute" and replace it with "interesting".

Im very interested of what your routine for this is.
How do you procceed after opening?

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I found out what went wrong. Today I did one single approach, just to find out what was going wrong with my approaches yesterday.

So I did one fast direct approach and number closed girl. So yeah, it went good. It seems like the girls like it when you're being passionate about what you say to them during the first few lines.

So if I could give you guys some advice. Speak slowly, confident and intense! Make it sound passionate.
This might actually be true. I've also found out that the hotter the girl is, the more EC she's giving me before approaching. The lower HB's are often too shy. Thanks for pointing this out!

And Energy_, I don't use any routines at all! I just give them a sincere compliment and flow from my heart from there.

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Since you're a big person, women can be easily intimidated by your size. Your increased confidence may have been your problem because you we're intruding on their space more and having a slightly pushy and arrogant attitude. i'm speaking from personal experience.

Since you're big "I'm 6'4" 220lbs" you must be very careful not to scare and intimidate chicks. ALWAYS have a friendly smile on your face with direct eye contact. Act as though you just heard a funny joke and want to relay it to her no matter what you're actually saying.

I would stop the "you are cute" thing. Telegraphing sexual interest early on means your value has to be sky high as you basically force the chick to take a position on you there and then, and you lower your value and raise hers by doing this.
Unless you are very good-looking and evoke strong body language she probably doesn't want to take the chance on you.

8 knockbacks in a row isn't a big deal. If you get to fuck ten hot women in a month but get your face slapped ninety times, isn't it worth it? Those women aren't making a judgement about you, in fact it is because they aren't getting to know you that you are gettng rejected.

I saw Ross Jeffries refer to CIQ - Complement, Introduction, Question - on a documentary. He got his student to do the above out on the street, whilst walking around with a book about constellations, so it went kinda like:
"You have the most amazing energy about you. Hi my name's <name>."
[Hand out to shake]
"What's your favourite constellation?"
And then carried on from there.

What is EC? I could not find this in the terms of importance thread.

EC = Eye Contact

try this, brilliant post by Yosha

how-to-approach-moving-street-sets-dire ... 55180.html

hope it helps

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Dont worry about it, you are on the right path and doing just fine

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Hey mister boss, I see you are from the Netherlands, I am too, could you give me a run through of how your routine goes like in Dutch? (no offense to the english speakers, here but dutch is kind of a second language to me so I am curious)

Thanks. I did read some of his material before. Very clear and to the point!

@fabie:

I don't really use a routine. It's always different, depending on the girl and the situation. But in general, I use the following structure:

-Approach/open
-Compliment
-Introduce
-Little fluff talk
-FTC
-Number close
This is very true. I found out that a positive energy is the most important thing. Thanks for reminding me FoolsMate!

@Johnny B

Thank you for the motivation!

I can assure you, I won't quit until I'm married and having 10 kids running around the house

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Keep flying until, you are the king of the hill.
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