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Hey people,

I need your advice on this.

Here's the background.I was mailing this woman online and she mentioned she had a new boyfriend. I applied a boyfriend destroyer and a few other things and apparently the bf is now gone. The woman mailled me a few times and I have suggested various things which she's complied with.My favourite is that she sent some photo of herself in underwear. The mails have become increasingly sexual. She has been quite direct in her sexuality at times saying she wanted to be fucked hard and at others to have gentle sex.She has mentioned that she needs a friend, wants to be loved again, wants casual sex. All intelligently written but very contrary.

We have met twice. The woman did not seem as weird in real life as in her mails and she is a tactile person. She liked squeezing my thigh when we were in a restaurant. In a cinema she was practically rubbing my genitals. Lots of hand holding and that. We had a short kissing session but nothing else. We keep in touch by email and the content is getting more graphic with a brief description of one of her fantasies.And she asked if I would do it. We arranged to meet for a third time but I went down with flu, so had to cancel. When I cancelled I let her know and she tried to ring me 5 times that evening! I didn't have the inclination to pick up the call after missing the first 2.When I got better I suggested meeting again.She's pulled back saying she and her daughter now have flu and she cannot meet yet. I've mailled saying little other than we should arrange something for the near future. That was a few days ago.Now I've had 3 calls each day since.

So what next do you think?
I think there's a chance she's just a fantasist and a pricktease
She could be just too messed up for a casual sex relationship she seems very insecure.
I hate to think what she'd be like if I do fuck her, she could get really obsessive

Well, it seems to me you should have no problem f-closing her. I mean you basically agreed on doing her fantasy. As for the dilemma on what she will expect after that - make sure you tell her clearly beforehand what your expectations are and what she can expect. IMHO that should be enough, I wouldnt be afraid of any obsessive-stalker-from-hell scenario.

Thanks for your reply NewApprentice,

I think I am still suffering from a lot of old AFC habits and my brain isn't quite accepting the changes I've already made. I still have LOTS of work to do on myself. When you have a history of chasing, pursuing and doing all the lame things that AFCs do to bed women, then it feels weird when someone is offering sex without all that shit.

I think it's important that I establish the rules of our relationship early, as in now. I sent an email to her earlier today saying that my phone number is really for emergency use only.

The fantasy could be quite lame or the kinkiest sex I've had for a long time.
Let's see how this plays out. I'm certainly keeping other options open.

I thought I'd just tie up loose ends and provide an update on this.

Well the lady turned out to be a pricktease. When I pressed her to take the relationship further she denied even wanting casual sex.WTF? Anyway she tried to LJBF me saying I was a really good person. I've replied with a big NO and moved on.

Hey! Thanks for the update. Even if you werent successful - it is her loss after all.

That's one thing that annoys me on posts is that people do not provide feedback as to how they got on.

I'm finding it a bit easier to stand my ground nowadays and do not backtrack once I've moved on.

The more I 'game' the more I'm not trusting or even liking women. I think Tyler Durden said in a post once that he found that women lie through their teeth almost constantly and he found it hard to trust any of them enough to want one of them as a girlfriend.

It can be very hard to trust women after being in the game for a period of time. You learn they lie a lot to get what they want. Then again, so do guys. I don't think really any particular person is 100% innocent. Hence why after years of gaming I took an extended break to try to start trusting women again. I have to admit that it is still very difficult but slowly getting better.

This is a side effect written in the very small print of the pickup label.

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In the future, if in a similar situation: If you're goal is just to F-close, DO IT. If at any point you believe she'll become obsessive before the F-close start limiting the information she has on you. I've been able to just drop of a chicks grid pretty fast because I rarely divulge my address, office, etc to women I meet on the internet. I use a number randomizer on cell too and save it. So whenever I call her she sees the same # over n over but its not really my number. Comes in handy. Smartphones FTW haha

Good advice.

I only give out my mobile number on a pay as you go contract (If worse comes to the worse I can always get another contract sim card...). I don't pick up calls from unknown numbers anyway, and I make girls/women I meet aware of this. I've only given out my surname once. I've never given out my full address. Logistically I would never f-close or anything at my place anyway.

By the way on the F close I made the woman perfectly aware that I did not intend to see her and the connection not escalate. I said that each time I saw her I would expect more.

Thankfully this woman has never called or mailled again. Calling 5 times in a row is a tad weird imho.